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== General ==
 
== General ==
  
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*Yard is [http://www.centreboard.eu Centreboard (HU)]
 
*Lay out A is for the first boat, we have those drawings as a reference, see ''inbox/00-2D PROJECT X.dwg''
 
*Lay out A is for the first boat, we have those drawings as a reference, see ''inbox/00-2D PROJECT X.dwg''
 
*Lay out B is our boat (the second), it is a charter version with 8 berths
 
*Lay out B is our boat (the second), it is a charter version with 8 berths
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*Drawing Lay out B is a preliminary set up drawing only
 
 
*Not all space is used when it is inefficient or hard to reach for use
 
*Not all space is used when it is inefficient or hard to reach for use
 
*Furniture is prefabricated outside the boat as much as possible, furniture enters the boat via a cut out in the aftdeck of 1400x1200, for boat #4 this cutout will be 1400x1400
 
*Furniture is prefabricated outside the boat as much as possible, furniture enters the boat via a cut out in the aftdeck of 1400x1200, for boat #4 this cutout will be 1400x1400
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*Sheets are nested full, if possible move parts to another material in order to obtain this  
 
*Sheets are nested full, if possible move parts to another material in order to obtain this  
 
*Carpenters are supposed to assemble the interior without drawings (only reference are the codes)
 
*Carpenters are supposed to assemble the interior without drawings (only reference are the codes)
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*access behind joinery - every space needs to be accessible for cleaning (to remove construction debris which might block bilgepumps)
  
 
== Origin ==
 
== Origin ==
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== Material ==
 
== Material ==
  
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*Plywood birch 3050x1250mm
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*see [[CNC interiors - work procedure]]
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*Plywood birch 3030x1245mm - density 600 kg/m3
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*HPL density - 1.4 kg /m2 for 1mm thickness
 
**15mm + 2x HPL 0.75mm ''draw 17mm''
 
**15mm + 2x HPL 0.75mm ''draw 17mm''
 
***sole
 
***sole
 
***furniture
 
***furniture
 
***seats
 
***seats
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**9mm + 2x HPL 0.75mm ''draw 11mm''
 
**4mm + 1x HPL 0.75mm (Abet 661) ''draw 5mm''
 
**4mm + 1x HPL 0.75mm (Abet 661) ''draw 5mm''
 
***lining panels glued to steel construction
 
***lining panels glued to steel construction
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*Abet 313 Nut - furniture doors  
 
*Abet 313 Nut - furniture doors  
 
*2x white backing - where no colour is required
 
*2x white backing - where no colour is required
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*white - all backing  
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*white - all backing
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*Vescom
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*Vescom is glued with foam on white panel
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== Upholstery ==
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*matress thickness 120mm
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*sole covering is carpet (loose)
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== Hardware ==
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*Hinges
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**concealed hinge full overlay - Hettich Sensys 8645i - TH 55 FIX (110° opening) - Hettich 9 071 220
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**concealed hinge inset - Hettich Sensys 8645i - TH 55 FIX (110° opening) - Hettich 9 071 222
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**screw-on cross mounting plate - Hettich System 8099 - Distance 0,0mm - Hettich 9 071 670
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**screw-on cross mounting plate - Hettich System 8099 - Distance 5,0mm - Hettich 9 071 673
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*Push button - Southco Marine MP-05-H21-F3-K3 (supplier Kroon)
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*supplier is [http://www.ostermann.eu/en.html Medomat (Ostermann)]
  
 
== Insulation ==
 
== Insulation ==
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**structure 10mm (can be cut away where necessary)  
 
**structure 10mm (can be cut away where necessary)  
 
*in general keep some space between furniture and insulation  
 
*in general keep some space between furniture and insulation  
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== Appliances ==
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*toilet - Planus Sky 560
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*heating by [http://www.warmteservice.nl Warmteservice] Zwolle
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**T: 038-467 15 20
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**E: zwolle@warmteservice.nl
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**contact person (shop manager): Job van Hoogmoed
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**convector grill: search on supllier website for 'sierrooster'
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== Electrical installation ==
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*see layer '00-E-SCHEMA-24V' and '00-E-SCHEMA-230V'
  
 
== Sole ==
 
== Sole ==
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== Ceilings ==
 
== Ceilings ==
  
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*17mm base ply is mounted against all frames (see layer 1-BET-DS*)
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*17mm basewood is mounted against all frames (see layer 1-BET-DS*)
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*Aft deck is reinforced with 2 girders, here a ''''''9mm birch plywood part is mounted first''''''?!?
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*thickness ceiling strips 13mm - see layer '0A-PLAFONDPLATEN'
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*aft cabin has an addtional base panel of 9mm because of girders
  
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== Port hole boxes ==
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== Port hole boxes and curtain pockets==
  
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*boxes have 75mm depth
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*curtain pockets
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*lining is 8mm and comes with porthole ''see layer frees Berken Naturel 04 (myst be 8mm)''
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**depth 75mm
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**lining is 8mm and comes with porthole ''see layer frees Berken Naturel 04 (myst be 8mm)''
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*porthole boxes
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**material of sides is 15mm + 2x HPL 0.75mm (draw 17mm)
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**sides to have 10mm overlength at hull side
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**porthole panel against steel is 9mm + 2x HPL 0.75mm (draw 11mm)
  
 
== Wet units ==
 
== Wet units ==
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*completed outside the boat, including sole
 
*completed outside the boat, including sole
 
*resting directly on the steel
 
*resting directly on the steel
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*ceilings are round, 17mm, cuts in top to help bending
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*furniture doors
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**doors + bulkhead cutouts are rectangular
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**door seam is 2mm
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**door and bulkhead edge finish is paint
  
 
== Doors ==
 
== Doors ==
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== Remarks Cabin 2 ==
 
== Remarks Cabin 2 ==
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*1 transverse bed 2000x800 direct on sole, see if you can use sole of layout A (VK-H1*)
 
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*1 longitudinal bed, max 1900 lenght? Forward engineroom bulkhead has large stiffeners, put first bulkhead in original position as layout A?
 
 
*37mm space aft of wetunit for water connections?
 
*37mm space aft of wetunit for water connections?
  
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== Remarks Bathroom 2 (aft PS) ==
 
== Remarks Bathroom 2 (aft PS) ==
  
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*longitudinal length to be reduced by 100mm
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*modifications made by yard, see mail (mail 20-06-2011)
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*minimum interior length 1000mm net
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*locker under sink to be lowered 100mm (mail 20-06-2011)
  
 
== Remarks Bathroom 3 (aft SB) ==  
 
== Remarks Bathroom 3 (aft SB) ==  
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*position for forward bulkhead as layout A
 
*position for forward bulkhead as layout A
  
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== Remarks Cabin 3 (PS aft) ==
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== Remarks Cabins aft ==
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*modify:
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**overhead locker enters into ceiling - lower with 6mm (front is OK)
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**frame intersects with ceiling - make cutout in ceiling, see layout-A
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**ceiling stops against overhead locker front, goes at sides beyond it - see layout-A
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**wardrobe shelves are too short, extend with 5
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**standard hatch detail: change overlap from 20 to 15
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**inclinated sole panels - exterior contour to be parallel with CL
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**inclinated sole panels - extend on aft side to allow for 20x20 for supporting wall?
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**aft bhd SB - groove for supporting upper bed
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**bathroom walls - add groove for supporting upper beds (5mm in Abet is not enough)
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**upper berth SB - cut behind lining, not to be support by stringer
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**upper berth SB - add cutout for frame
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*missing:
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**side porthole cutouts
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**escape hatch transom panels (PVC) + sides (15mm 2x white)
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**escape hatch cutouts in Vescom panels (size conform Gebo musquito screen)
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**basewood for ceiling
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*bunkberth (a lower and upper berth)
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Modifications?
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*bhd 17mm direct against steel of F02
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*overhead lockers - hinges on topedge? less forces on hinge
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*berth lenght 2000mm, then 5mm (Abet 661)against wet unit
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*drawers - plywood drawer box?
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*berth width 800mm
 
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*upper berth starts at F02+110mm (see topview layout A), 17mm bhd, bed 2000mm, then 5mm against wet unit (contradiction with lower bed, I will ask yard)
 
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*escape hatch in transom ''for position see inbox/SPIEGEL CHARTER.dwg''
 
  
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== Remarks Cabin 4 (SB aft) ==
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== Nesting ==
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*Cutter is Ø18
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*Nest edge offset -  5mm
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*Nest part offset - 22mm ''but more with corners <90°!, offset contour with 18mm and fillet corners with radius 9 to see cutter path''
  
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Mirrorwise of cabin 3
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== Systems ==
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*electric - sleevepipes pass through frames (hole Ø26mm), in insulation
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*fresh water piping - pass through frames, in insulation
  
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== Remarks ==
  
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*improvements:
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**push button latch distance to edge to be the same for doors, drawers, etc.
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**furniture door bumpers?
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**door overlay is for double overlay, detail for corner cabinet (full overlay?)
  
 
[[Category: Projects]]
 
[[Category: Projects]]

Latest revision as of 15:34, 6 July 2011

General[edit]

  • Yard is Centreboard (HU)
  • Lay out A is for the first boat, we have those drawings as a reference, see inbox/00-2D PROJECT X.dwg
  • Lay out B is our boat (the second), it is a charter version with 8 berths
  • Not all space is used when it is inefficient or hard to reach for use
  • Furniture is prefabricated outside the boat as much as possible, furniture enters the boat via a cut out in the aftdeck of 1400x1200, for boat #4 this cutout will be 1400x1400
  • Yard manager used to draw CNC building kits himself in 2D AutoCad
  • Sheets are nested full, if possible move parts to another material in order to obtain this
  • Carpenters are supposed to assemble the interior without drawings (only reference are the codes)
  • access behind joinery - every space needs to be accessible for cleaning (to remove construction debris which might block bilgepumps)

Origin[edit]

At intersection of DWL and F32

Material[edit]

  • Plywood birch 3030x1245mm - density 600 kg/m3
  • HPL density - 1.4 kg /m2 for 1mm thickness
    • 15mm + 2x HPL 0.75mm draw 17mm
      • sole
      • furniture
      • seats
    • 9mm + 2x HPL 0.75mm draw 11mm
    • 4mm + 1x HPL 0.75mm (Abet 661) draw 5mm
      • lining panels glued to steel construction
    • 4mm + 2x HPL 0.75mm draw 6mm
      • furniture backpanels

Colours[edit]

  • Abet 661 Micro - walls, lining, furniture bodies
  • Abet 313 Nut - furniture doors
  • 2x white backing - where no colour is required
  • white - all backing
  • Vescom is glued with foam on white panel

Upholstery[edit]

  • matress thickness 120mm
  • sole covering is carpet (loose)

Hardware[edit]

  • Hinges
    • concealed hinge full overlay - Hettich Sensys 8645i - TH 55 FIX (110° opening) - Hettich 9 071 220
    • concealed hinge inset - Hettich Sensys 8645i - TH 55 FIX (110° opening) - Hettich 9 071 222
    • screw-on cross mounting plate - Hettich System 8099 - Distance 0,0mm - Hettich 9 071 670
    • screw-on cross mounting plate - Hettich System 8099 - Distance 5,0mm - Hettich 9 071 673
  • Push button - Southco Marine MP-05-H21-F3-K3 (supplier Kroon)
  • supplier is Medomat (Ostermann)

Insulation[edit]

  • PU foam
  • thickness:
    • shell 40-50mm
    • structure 10mm (can be cut away where necessary)
  • in general keep some space between furniture and insulation

Appliances[edit]

  • toilet - Planus Sky 560
  • heating by Warmteservice Zwolle
    • T: 038-467 15 20
    • E: zwolle@warmteservice.nl
    • contact person (shop manager): Job van Hoogmoed
    • convector grill: search on supllier website for 'sierrooster'

Electrical installation[edit]

  • see layer '00-E-SCHEMA-24V' and '00-E-SCHEMA-230V'

Sole[edit]

  • 4mm rubber above enginer room only, all other sole panels are directly on steel construction
  • levels (measured to underside of solepanel):
    • foreship DWL -280
    • midship DWL +559
    • aftship DWL -259
  • sole only where necessary, continue 20mm beyond bhd (for 20x20 slat)
  • sole stops against wet units

Ceilings[edit]

  • 17mm basewood is mounted against all frames (see layer 1-BET-DS*)
  • thickness ceiling strips 13mm - see layer '0A-PLAFONDPLATEN'
  • aft cabin has an addtional base panel of 9mm because of girders

Port hole boxes and curtain pockets[edit]

  • curtain pockets
    • depth 75mm
    • lining is 8mm and comes with porthole see layer frees Berken Naturel 04 (myst be 8mm)
  • porthole boxes
    • material of sides is 15mm + 2x HPL 0.75mm (draw 17mm)
    • sides to have 10mm overlength at hull side
    • porthole panel against steel is 9mm + 2x HPL 0.75mm (draw 11mm)

Wet units[edit]

  • completed outside the boat, including sole
  • resting directly on the steel
  • ceilings are round, 17mm, cuts in top to help bending
  • furniture doors
    • doors + bulkhead cutouts are rectangular
    • door seam is 2mm
    • door and bulkhead edge finish is paint

Doors[edit]

Doorleafs (30mm) not in building kit, will be cut by yard

Part codes[edit]

  • 5 horizontal layers:
    • H1 sole
    • H2 intermediary
    • H3 seat
    • H4 intermediary
    • H5 ceiling
  • 4 vertical segments:
    • V1 on top of H1
    • V2 on top of H2
    • V3 on top of H3
    • V4 on top of H4
  • Compartments
    • AK aft cabin (achterkajuit)
    • VK fore cabin (voorkajuit)
    • SH wheelhouse (stuurhuis)
  • Furniture
    • KN galley (keuken)
    • SF settee (sofa)
  • Partnumbers
    • assigned clockwise


  • Layer use in 2D Autocad
    • DS = section (doorsnede)
    • US = expansion (uitslag)
    • ST = steel (staal)
    • 2 = layout 2
    • FR = frame (spant)
  • example: 2-BET-US-AK-WC-H1-01 = Layout 2, BETimmering-UitSlag-AchterKajuit-WC-Vloer H1, deel 01.

Remarks Cabin 1 (forepeak)[edit]

  • V-berth with filling piece to make it a double berth
  • level berth as layout A, box under bed can be copied (layer 1-BET-US: VK-H2-01, 03 and 04, VK-V1-06, VK-V1-07 and VK-V2-04, see also drawing VK-Agy allat (sounds Hungarian..)
  • box under berth should be the same because of battery for bow thruster
  • if possible use same wardrobes and shelf as in layout A: 1-BET-US-VK-K3-01 and 03 UPDATE: wardrobes must be modified for layout-A and will not fit in layout-B
  • locker in forepeak bhd as in layout-A, this locker has a bottom- forward hinging aftpanel and removable shelf to give access to the chain locker, see dwg VK-OR SZENKRENY K6
  • wet unit has 37mm space between wall and 5mm lining to accommodate piping see picture 001 and 007
  • forepeak bhd has sleeves to support bookshelves see picture 004 and wardrobe top (is ceiling sidedeck)

Remarks Cabin 2[edit]

  • 37mm space aft of wetunit for water connections?

Remarks Bathroom 1[edit]

  • copy from layout-A
  • see inbox\CD-VK-WC-POL-UNIT.dwg but check those expansions with inbox/00-2D PROJECT X.dwg

Remarks Salon / Galley[edit]

  • settee as long as possible, foot end of berth cabin 2 under settee, if not possible than sofa as in layout A (part SF-H3-01)
  • seat height is 350mm + 17mm seat panel
  • galley 'floats' partly above engine room hatches
  • galley parts from layout A can be used again
  • galley forward cabinet houses the distribution panel (W550xH750xD182) in the side, parallel to CL (see lay out A SH-K2)
  • converter in layout A was in locker with distribution panel, now a new location must be found
  • 37mm space aft of wetunit to accommodate water connections?
  • frame around aft window is 55mm deep, see picture 009. In front of this a panel 11mm white (will be painted)which stops on top of back of settee, 495 above seat.
  • settee back has inspection hatch for connections shower

Remarks Bathroom 2 (aft PS)[edit]

  • modifications made by yard, see mail (mail 20-06-2011)
  • locker under sink to be lowered 100mm (mail 20-06-2011)

Remarks Bathroom 3 (aft SB)[edit]

  • longitudinal length to be reduced by 100mm
  • see cabin 3 for position of aft bulkhead
  • position for forward bulkhead as layout A

Remarks Cabins aft[edit]

  • modify:
    • overhead locker enters into ceiling - lower with 6mm (front is OK)
    • frame intersects with ceiling - make cutout in ceiling, see layout-A
    • ceiling stops against overhead locker front, goes at sides beyond it - see layout-A
    • wardrobe shelves are too short, extend with 5
    • standard hatch detail: change overlap from 20 to 15
    • inclinated sole panels - exterior contour to be parallel with CL
    • inclinated sole panels - extend on aft side to allow for 20x20 for supporting wall?
    • aft bhd SB - groove for supporting upper bed
    • bathroom walls - add groove for supporting upper beds (5mm in Abet is not enough)
    • upper berth SB - cut behind lining, not to be support by stringer
    • upper berth SB - add cutout for frame
  • missing:
    • side porthole cutouts
    • escape hatch transom panels (PVC) + sides (15mm 2x white)
    • escape hatch cutouts in Vescom panels (size conform Gebo musquito screen)
    • basewood for ceiling


Modifications?

  • overhead lockers - hinges on topedge? less forces on hinge
  • drawers - plywood drawer box?

Nesting[edit]

  • Cutter is Ø18
  • Nest edge offset - 5mm
  • Nest part offset - 22mm but more with corners <90°!, offset contour with 18mm and fillet corners with radius 9 to see cutter path

Systems[edit]

  • electric - sleevepipes pass through frames (hole Ø26mm), in insulation
  • fresh water piping - pass through frames, in insulation

Remarks[edit]

  • improvements:
    • push button latch distance to edge to be the same for doors, drawers, etc.
    • furniture door bumpers?
    • door overlay is for double overlay, detail for corner cabinet (full overlay?)
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