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== General == | == General == | ||
| + | *<span style="color:#A3BFAC">How to display the SC ribbons?</span> | ||
| + | **<span style="color:#A3BFAC">Type "''ribbon''" to display the ribbons</span> | ||
| + | **<span style="color:#A3BFAC">If you don't see the ribbons that you need you have to change the workspace (click on the gear button on the lower right of the screen and select from there what you need).</span> | ||
| − | + | == Administrator == | |
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| − | + | == Data Base == | |
| − | + | By modifying the [[DataBase SC2008|database]] you can correct some mistakes you made during the project | |
== Manager == | == Manager == | ||
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== Hull == | == Hull == | ||
| − | *minimum import tolerance is 0.1mm, how to increase? | + | Stringer shells |
| − | ** '''0.1''' is the minimum value for SC. | + | If there are problems in the orientation of the stringers, you can check the stringer shell's health with SCSTRSHELLHEALTH command |
| − | *trim lines in hull gives big differences because of NURBS lines are transformed into polylines | + | Problems can be generated by the orientation of the original surface from rhino(check to see if the orientation is the same for the entire surface) |
| − | ** Trim the surfaces with Rhino imported curves (exploded), not with nurbs. | + | *<span style="color:#A3BFAC">minimum import tolerance is 0.1mm, how to increase?</span> |
| + | **<span style="color:#A3BFAC"> '''0.1''' is the minimum value for SC if you import from a rhino 4 file. If you import from rhino 3 it cam be smaller.</span> | ||
| + | *<span style="color:#A3BFAC">trim lines in hull gives big differences because of NURBS lines are transformed into polylines</span> | ||
| + | ** <span style="color:#A3BFAC">Trim the surfaces with Rhino imported curves (exploded), not with nurbs.</span> | ||
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| + | *Cutout contours with radii in the corners transform into chamfered cutouts after expanding. | ||
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| + | == Approval, Assembly and Export == | ||
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| + | *Sometimes it takes a huge amout of time and memory to export some curved plates. | ||
| + | **Lambertus Oosterveen from Royal Huisman has the same problem with SC2008. support says that the problem is generated by the too dense surfaces or trim curves. | ||
| + | **The same surfaces used in SC2005 give much smaller times for export. so the problem is generated by their export methods... | ||
| + | **You can see a discusin on [http://www.shipconstructor.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=347&p=512&hilit=inconsistent#p512 | Shipconstructor Forum] about this. | ||
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| + | *Bound Approval problems | ||
| + | **when we make a bound approval, the text on the plates moves, gets mirrored or flipped. | ||
| + | **Marking lines get doubled. | ||
| + | **Autocad leaders get messed up after binding the approval and all need rearranging. | ||
| + | **Shipconstructor dashed lines become continuous in bound approval. | ||
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| + | *Assembly structural pipes and big plate visibility | ||
| + | **In wireframe you can't see the pipes if you want to plot the drawing. | ||
| + | **The same problem concerns also big plates. | ||
== Structure == | == Structure == | ||
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IssueID: 14873 | IssueID: 14873 | ||
Status: Pending scheduling | Status: Pending scheduling | ||
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| + | *Crv plate – how to remove text from individual reference lines. | ||
| + | *Crv plate – how to remove individual reference lines. | ||
== Nest == | == Nest == | ||
| − | * | + | Multiple nest |
| − | + | IssueID: 3042 | |
| + | Status: Pending scheduling | ||
| + | *Many times the finishes are not showed in the BOM table. And if they are showing, after exporting the nest to NC-Pyros they disappear. | ||
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*Nest template - text style | *Nest template - text style | ||
**Solved | **Solved | ||
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== 09010 project Issues == | == 09010 project Issues == | ||
*Does not snipe in HULL. I can’t align the expansions because I can’t select an intersection or an end point. | *Does not snipe in HULL. I can’t align the expansions because I can’t select an intersection or an end point. | ||
| + | **it is a local problem on ws-04 | ||
*In planar group U1-TANKBOT we can’t add some marking lines to the plate. It changes their color when you try to add them but they do not appear on the plate. | *In planar group U1-TANKBOT we can’t add some marking lines to the plate. It changes their color when you try to add them but they do not appear on the plate. | ||
*It does not bind the approval. We had to bind it on small pieces and use extract components for several planar groups and for the curved group we had to use extract production info for each plate. | *It does not bind the approval. We had to bind it on small pieces and use extract components for several planar groups and for the curved group we had to use extract production info for each plate. | ||
*In NEST for the 4mm plate doesn’t update the table with the used material weight. | *In NEST for the 4mm plate doesn’t update the table with the used material weight. | ||
*In planar group U1-MAINDECK we can’t make the marking lines to appear dashed. No matter on what side of the plate we put the marking it still appears continuous. | *In planar group U1-MAINDECK we can’t make the marking lines to appear dashed. No matter on what side of the plate we put the marking it still appears continuous. | ||
| + | **next time be careful with purging drawings, important information might be lost, like scondashed, the dashd linetipe for shipconstructor | ||
**IssueID: 15179 | **IssueID: 15179 | ||
**Status: Pending scheduling | **Status: Pending scheduling | ||
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| + | == Projects to send == | ||
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| + | Comparison and test projects: | ||
| + | *Test2005 | ||
| + | *Test2009 | ||
| + | **For both projects we expanded the same plates in hull and imported them in curved group. For Those plates we tried to make the bound approval and, as expected for 2008 it took much more time. Also after exploding the approval it looks like the curves for 2008 have more vertices, although the tolerance should be the same. | ||
| + | **Note 1: For 2008 if we had also the mirrored parts we would probably run out of memory. | ||
| + | **Note 2: For Test project I used a solid creation tolerance of 0.1mm and for 09010 the tolerance was 0.05. | ||
[[Category: ShipConstructor]] | [[Category: ShipConstructor]] | ||
Latest revision as of 11:10, 19 July 2012
Contents
General[edit]
- How to display the SC ribbons?
- Type "ribbon" to display the ribbons
- If you don't see the ribbons that you need you have to change the workspace (click on the gear button on the lower right of the screen and select from there what you need).
Administrator[edit]
Data Base[edit]
By modifying the database you can correct some mistakes you made during the project
Manager[edit]
- Correct settings for text style, height, etc. (they disappear after exploding nests?! DXF?!)
Hull[edit]
Stringer shells If there are problems in the orientation of the stringers, you can check the stringer shell's health with SCSTRSHELLHEALTH command Problems can be generated by the orientation of the original surface from rhino(check to see if the orientation is the same for the entire surface)
- minimum import tolerance is 0.1mm, how to increase?
- 0.1 is the minimum value for SC if you import from a rhino 4 file. If you import from rhino 3 it cam be smaller.
- trim lines in hull gives big differences because of NURBS lines are transformed into polylines
- Trim the surfaces with Rhino imported curves (exploded), not with nurbs.
- Cutout contours with radii in the corners transform into chamfered cutouts after expanding.
Approval, Assembly and Export[edit]
- Sometimes it takes a huge amout of time and memory to export some curved plates.
- Lambertus Oosterveen from Royal Huisman has the same problem with SC2008. support says that the problem is generated by the too dense surfaces or trim curves.
- The same surfaces used in SC2005 give much smaller times for export. so the problem is generated by their export methods...
- You can see a discusin on | Shipconstructor Forum about this.
- Bound Approval problems
- when we make a bound approval, the text on the plates moves, gets mirrored or flipped.
- Marking lines get doubled.
- Autocad leaders get messed up after binding the approval and all need rearranging.
- Shipconstructor dashed lines become continuous in bound approval.
- Assembly structural pipes and big plate visibility
- In wireframe you can't see the pipes if you want to plot the drawing.
- The same problem concerns also big plates.
Structure[edit]
- layer management (important for bound approval)
- The AutoCad setting LAYEREVALCTL must be 0. Disables the evaluation and notification of new layers.
- For more details search Acad Help for "Use New Layer Notification"
- Unreconciled layers cannot be plotted in AutoCad2006.
- Workaround: open and save the drawing in Rhino.
- Export - exports all layers, how to export only the solid layers?
Here are some commands that you might find useful SCSHOWPPCLS show plate part constructionlines SCHIDEPPCLS hide plate part constructionlines, SCSHOWONLYPPCLS show only plate part constructionlines, SCSHOWONLYPPANDCLS show only plate part and constructionlines, These commands may not be in the menu but should be IssueID: 14873 Status: Pending scheduling
- Crv plate – how to remove text from individual reference lines.
- Crv plate – how to remove individual reference lines.
Nest[edit]
Multiple nest IssueID: 3042 Status: Pending scheduling
- Many times the finishes are not showed in the BOM table. And if they are showing, after exporting the nest to NC-Pyros they disappear.
- Nest template - text style
- Solved
- Nest - layer use
- all on STOCK now
- Parts cannot be exploded outside the project (for export to NC-Pyros)
- Workaround: Export each nest as DXF
09010 project Issues[edit]
- Does not snipe in HULL. I can’t align the expansions because I can’t select an intersection or an end point.
- it is a local problem on ws-04
- In planar group U1-TANKBOT we can’t add some marking lines to the plate. It changes their color when you try to add them but they do not appear on the plate.
- It does not bind the approval. We had to bind it on small pieces and use extract components for several planar groups and for the curved group we had to use extract production info for each plate.
- In NEST for the 4mm plate doesn’t update the table with the used material weight.
- In planar group U1-MAINDECK we can’t make the marking lines to appear dashed. No matter on what side of the plate we put the marking it still appears continuous.
- next time be careful with purging drawings, important information might be lost, like scondashed, the dashd linetipe for shipconstructor
- IssueID: 15179
- Status: Pending scheduling
- Softaware instaled:
- Ship Constructor 2008 R4.4.1
- AutoCAD 2009
- AutoCAD 2008 version B.51.0 (UNICODE)
Projects to send[edit]
Comparison and test projects:
- Test2005
- Test2009
- For both projects we expanded the same plates in hull and imported them in curved group. For Those plates we tried to make the bound approval and, as expected for 2008 it took much more time. Also after exploding the approval it looks like the curves for 2008 have more vertices, although the tolerance should be the same.
- Note 1: For 2008 if we had also the mirrored parts we would probably run out of memory.
- Note 2: For Test project I used a solid creation tolerance of 0.1mm and for 09010 the tolerance was 0.05.
