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Paneel ook zo opbouwen met lange lasbochten (5S?)  en achter een 10mm RVS rond. In het frame plaat met gat –randen 30 mm- waarbij Trespa plaat bovenzijde op hart buis ligt.
 
Paneel ook zo opbouwen met lange lasbochten (5S?)  en achter een 10mm RVS rond. In het frame plaat met gat –randen 30 mm- waarbij Trespa plaat bovenzijde op hart buis ligt.
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== 50 Outfitting ==
 
== 50 Outfitting ==

Revision as of 12:54, 7 December 2012

General

  • salesprice 215.000 € ex VAT
  • to compete with:
    • Jetten 37 AC
    • Aventura 38 AC
  • initial client - boat rental Schulz, renting a lot to group of man (biliart clubs, etc.)

Questions

  • Emergency steering: rudder shaft with square head?
  • Waste water - do we need pump or can it drain overboard without?
  • Fresh water pump - Jabsco Max 4 (16.3 l/min - €174 brut) or Jabsco VSD Sensor Max 14 (13.5 l/min - € 318.00 brut)
  • instruments - bidata ST40 / tridata ST60 are outdated, replace?

Classification

  • CE-C

Yard budget

  • estimated (mail 01-Jun-12):
    • steel 700
    • wood 750
    • paint 750
    • systems 350
    • sandblasting 100
    • outfitting and delivery 150

Supplier discounts

  • 20% Marine Booster
  • 40% Stazo
  • 25% Webasto

Drawing list

  • Note:
    • Below list is not complete
    • Drawings can be combined if suitable
  • CE?

10 Design and styling

  • 10-100 general arrangement
  • 10-910 general data
    • net weight construction
    • net weight interior
    • total weight
    • COG
  • 3D presentation models?
  • renderings?

20 Naval Architecture

30 Propulsion

40 Construction

  • 40-100 longitudinal construction plan
    • tank arrangement
    • propulsion arrangement
    • rudder arrangement
  • 40-110 transverse construction plan (SC)
  • 40-130 shell penetrations
  • 40-200 expansions hull (SC)
  • 40-210 expansions superstructure (SC)
  • 40-220 bending and forming
  • 40-300 build moulds
  • 40-400 plate nests steel
  • 40-410 plate nests stainless steel
  • 40-910 material estimation steel
  • 40-920 key data
    • net weight
    • brut weight
    • loss %
    • COG
    • cutting length

50 Outfitting

  • 50-110 deck plan
  • 50-111 fender details?
  • 50-120 portholes and hatches
  • 50-121 windows
  • 50-122 entrance door and sliding hatch
  • 50-123 windscreen
  • 50-150 ventilation
  • 50-160 stainless steel (incl. material estimation or on separate document?)
  • 50-170 steering arrangement
  • 50-180 windlass arrangement
  • 50-190 mast
  • 50-200 bench aftdeck
  • 50-210 sprayhood and bimini
  • 50-220 steering console?

60 Systems

  • 60-100 bilge drainage
  • 60-110 exhaust gas
  • 60-120 ME cooling
  • 60-130 fuel system
  • 60-140 fresh water system
  • 60-150 waste water system
  • 60-160 heating

70 Interior

  • 70-100 set up interior
  • 70-105 general detail plan
  • 70-110 sole plan
  • 70-120 lining plan
  • 70-121 base wood plan
  • 70-130 ceiling plan
  • 70-140 lighting plan
  • 70-150 profile list
  • 70-160 cabin doors
  • 70-161 salon table
  • 70-162 cabin stairs
  • 70-163 cooling box
  • 70-170 upholstery
  • 70-800 nests
  • 70-810 furniture expansions
  • 70-820 furniture assemblies
  • 70-910 key data
    • net weight
    • brut weight
    • loss %
    • COG
    • cutting length
  • 70-920 material estimation plywood
  • 70-930 hardware list
  • 70-940 hardware catalogue
  • 70-950 assembly names

10 Design

  • sales strategy is to offer as much berths as possible for the lowest price so the boat will be very interesting for the rental market
  • only developable surfaces:
    • no forming plates
    • no bending plates
    • only 'radiused' plates
  • simple and cheap - the less components the cheaper to build
  • furniture to be split in units which can be prefabricated outside the boat (and outside the premises)
  • sidedeck steps - not IN bathrooms but well before them (possible use for breathers)
  • transom stairs
    • width 500-550 (older people)
  • last step ending under 45 degrees with CL
    • transom gas locker PS - for 2x 5kg gas bottle
  • swimplatform
    • length minimum 800mm
    • swimplatform - lower part at least 200mm above DWL (to avoid slamming waves against swimplatform
  • transom corners - well rounded
  • transom cheeks with knuckles?
  • sidedecks - 450mm wide
  • superstructure - max width 3100-3150
  • bench aftdeck - initially steel, later GRP?
  • railing cloths - steel (Schulz)
  • rope fender around hull
  • rubber fender around swimplatform
  • steering
    • wheel Ø800
    • wheel nearly horizontal

50 outfitting

  • windows
    • sliding window in salon side
    • supplier - Rhigo (mail 03-11-2012)
  • portholes
    • supplier - Gebo
    • PS and SB can be non symmetrical
    • hull - glue plexiglass/lexan?
    • hull - combine with ER air intake?
  • deck hatches
    • supplier - Gebo
    • make sure you can reach the hatch for closing/opening
    • entrance hatch - GRP Centerboard standard
  • doors
    • transom door - Gebo hatch 900x600
  • gas locker
    • door Belship
  • ventilation
    • very important and permanent
    • all spaces
  • aftdeck
    • fridge
    • sink + tap
    • helmsman seat - Swingback Seat with Stainless Steel Arms Todd USA (fridge integrated?) (mail 16-10-2012)

70 interior

  • aftcabin
    • bed under 45 degrees against transom
    • option for double cabin layout (can be non symmetric)
    • double bed convertible into 2 single beds (sliding/hinging system, seen on Greenline 33)
  • headroom
    • bathrooms 1900

20 Naval Architecture

transom rounding

  • well rounded to avoid damage during leaving quai side
  • keep step of 150mm next to stairs so you can step on the quai side
  • hull transom can stop before rounding (shortening hull)

tanks

  • capacity (Ontwerp instructies SP-N40):
    • 500l FW (because of 2 showers)
    • 300l fuel
    • 500l WW (for example in keel, to not create heel/trim)
  • tank status to not influence trim/heel
  • WW tank above FW tank, transverse in front of forward ER bhd?
  • diesel immediatley aft of forward ER bhd?
  • all custom made PP tanks
  • fuel - if only 1 tank forward of engine than steel tank against bhd, not attached to shell, condens sump with baffle plate above and tap

keel

30 Propulsion

  • engine - IVECO N45 MNA M10.2 74 KW 100PK (mail 15-10-12)
    • adjustabel mounting with spacers (as CC40?) (mail 19-11-12)
  • gearbox - Technodrive TM93 (mail 15-10-12)
  • coupling/thrusterbearing
    • Aquadrive (Ontwerp instructies SP-N40)
    • angles of Aquadrive in and out to be equal
  • shaft Ø40 ITAL cone 1:10
  • propellor - 'standard'
  • nozzle - canceled (by phone 5-11-2012) alternative prop protection with 2 horizontal fins welded to the keel/skeg, length is half prop Ø
  • bow and stern thruster - Sidepower 100kgm 12V in tube Ø185 (confirmed 6-11-12 by mail)
  • suggestion Schulz: Craftsman CM4.80 - price for 5 pcs €7700
  • Schulz: Deutz 1013M engines are very reliable
  • Schulz: replacing 10 propellors per year, sometimes including shaft, because of under water rocks/stones
  • rudder
    • plastic 50mm
    • sheet size 2000x1000 - consider when designing rudder (width <=500 for example)

40 Construction

  • as cheap as possible (simple, light)
  • yard budget 600 manhours
  • side stiffening - longitudinal FB CNC
  • transverse bottom stiffening - CNC frames ending against T-stringers
  • roof beams - CNC (profile is hard to make them all exact the same)
  • round corners of pipe segment - choose 1 radius for all corners
  • salon front to be with rounded corners
  • sole
    • longitudinal rectangular tubes 60x40x3(as Aventura 43), used for cables too (thrusters, windlass)
    • partially removable for entering/rotating the sanitary units
  • salon will be 'removable' in order to bring in the prefabbed interior parts, coupling detail as CC40, see notes inbox\'Ontwerp instructies SP-N40.doc'
  • sandblasting - make sure all spaces are accessible for sand blasting
  • moulds - boat is build upside down (including lower part of superstructure), deliver moulds with first boat
  • fender base - rect. tube 120x80x4
  • rudder cylinder foundation - consider VDO rudder sensor
  • incorporate:
    • ears/lips for interior positioning
    • ears/rings/holes for piping
    • system foundations
  • steering position
    • instruments removed from IVECO panel
    • Trespa panel (ga ik gebruiken want ik heb hier nogal wat liggen.)
    • window wiper panel
    • VDO FO gauge
    • VDO FW gauge
    • WW gauge
    • Ray Marine Tridata or Bidata
    • VDO rudder angle indicator
    • Side-Power panel
    • panel with 6 rocker switches for:
      • horn
      • de activate buzzer
      • instrument lighting + navigation lights
      • anchor light
      • bilgepump
      • bench lighting aftdeck (optional)
    • engine control (side mounted)
    • may be - radio control
  • bulwark pipe 1" thick walled (33.4x3.25)
  • swimplatform
    • open construction
    • draining aft (1.5° at CL)

Paneel ook zo opbouwen met lange lasbochten (5S?) en achter een 10mm RVS rond. In het frame plaat met gat –randen 30 mm- waarbij Trespa plaat bovenzijde op hart buis ligt.

Penetrations

below DWL

  • 1x cooling water ME
  • 1x black water over board
  • 2x inlet toilet (1" conform Jan)
  • bi data

at DWL +100

  • 1x galley drain (1.1./2" conform Jan

50 Outfitting

windows

  • indicate wall thickness on drawing (steel + PVC)

steering

  • Levanto 38 has comparable displacement and steers well so we will try to use the same system BUT we have to use components of CUNO if possible:
    • arm yard made
    • cylinder Ultraflex UC215-I (111kgm)- LC465 40-52, 115kgm from CUNO
    • pump Ultraflex UP39 - LS451140, 40cc, with check valve and mounting bracket included from CUNO
    • wheel Ø575 (conform dwg)- Model for this project Ø550 Stazo type 12
    • arm strikes are tube 60x30
    • cylinder stroke should be slightly bigger then strike

fenders

  • lower fender of rubber around swimplatform (well rounded corners) - starting at aft ER bulkhead, modified Aventura 43 profile, shore 90 (ask for new drawing)
    • min. bending radius R=500mm (mail 23-11-2012)
  • rope fender
    • Ø110 (mail 22-11-2012)
    • around hull and transom cheeks (renters succeed to damage even this part of the boat with manouvring)

windlass arrangement

  • manual Cuno - Lofrans Royal
  • chainpipe 76x2mm RVS 304 through bow
  • anchor - 35kg st.st. polished - TBS?

navigation lights

  • no LED
  • boardlights
  • anchorlight
  • steamlight
  • sternlight

stainless steel

  • 4x double bollards - for dimensions see PDF
  • 2x single bollard on swimplatform (smaller model), directly welded on swimplatform
  • flagpole support at bow and transom
  • anchor protection plate at bow
  • fender fairings
  • handrail rooftop
  • handrail transom (horizontal)
  • railing 650mm high, single tube (verify height and number of tubes with CE)
  • mast (folding)
  • swimladder (see drawing inbox)
  • boarding ladder side with 2/3 steps (see pictures)
  • nav lights
    • NO Lopo lights (mail 29-11-2012)
    • board lights - supports on lower coachroof
    • sternlight - integrate in bench?
    • anchorlight - find solution

aftdeck

  • sink
  • cooling box in helm seat
  • table - for mounting see detail dwg in inbox

hatches and portlights

  • make Gebo
  • portlights fixed in cabins
  • portlights opening in bathrooms
  • deck hatches 500x500
  • transom hatch 900x600
  • companionway without window

sliding hatch

  • GRP
  • recessed
  • dimensions as 476

windscreen

  • see remarks 'Ontwerp instructies SP-N40'
  • window wiper 3x, see mail 30-11-2012

60 Systems

general

  • pumps - Waeco (cheap and reliable conform Schulz)

bilge

  • pump - Cuno 50880-1000
  • switch - Belship 032351
    • switch will activate only a buzzer at steering console
  • limber holes in all frames for water to drane in to the bilge sump

exhaust

  • one side
  • st.st. tube Ø100mm above DWL (check with CE) directing aft
  • waterlock Ø100mm Cuno (as Aventura 43)

cooling ME

  • short stand-pipe of about 50mm (so pipe interior can be painted with brush)

heating

  • cabins - radiators
  • wet cabins - towel radiator
  • piping - Ø20mm - iFIT by Georg Fischer (full CAD library available on website) (for parts see mail 12-11-12)
    • when Webasto tap unit is used a short pipe of Ø25 iFIT is requiered

Webasto 90ST

  • Thermo 90S 12V Plug & heat - Webasto 77054700 - € 1.886,40 (2011-03) (project 476)
  • thermostat for 90ST / 24V -Webasto 25011C - € 39,88 (2011-03)
  • expansiontank with sideglass and dop - Webasto 79289500 - € 215,82 (2011-03)
  • exhaust thermo isolatie L=1850mm - Webasto 1313978A - € 63.00 (2011-03)
  • exhaust silencer 38mm RVS met steun - Webasto .14 - € 116.42 (2011-03)
  • exhaust clamp 42mm (9002255A) - Webasto 79643700 - € 5,63
  • NOTE: Webasto writes in their mail of 18-10-12 (our mail 12-11-12) that the radiators are not enough for the heater to dispense it's heat so they offer a blower of Isotherm, initially 1 but more might be required

Webasto DBW 2010

  • DBW 2010 12V CH - air heating - € 2.973,76 (2012-10 see offer in inbox)

Webasto DBW 2016

  • DBW 2016C 24V TAP, incl. 3391438A 20 ltr. buffertank isotemp - Webasto 3391826A - € 2,721.60 (2011-03)
  • expansion tank 8l 'Aquabox' - Webasto 149036 - € 44.85 (2011-03)
  • bracket for expansion tank - Webasto 3200627A - € 19.51 (2011-03)

ventilation

  • wet cabins - mushroom Vetus
  • Vetus Typhoon in bench aftdeck for permanent ventilation (Ontwerp instructies SP-N40)
  • Vetus Tom as on 483 (Ontwerp instructies SP-N40)

ventilation ER

  • ER - as Aventura 43 (Ontwerp instructies SP-N40)
  • NO blower (mail 7-11-2012)
  • grill as Aventura 43 (mail 7-11-2012)

fresh water

  • accumulator tank 8l (Cuno 337020)
  • bracket set (Cuno 337021)
  • pump Jabsco Max 4 (Cuno 3368) / Jabsco VSD Sensor Max 14
    • bracket set has provisions for mounting the pump so no separate pump foundation required!
  • boiler 40 lt Cuno 230V + engine connected (as Aventura 43)
  • sink on aftdeck
  • piping - Ø16mm - iFIT by Georg Fischer (full CAD library available on website)

waste water

  • galley drains directly overboard
  • no smell filter Belship (Whale) as 483

black water

  • issue - when tank is full the shit exits via breather or makes a pipe burst which drains the shit into the boat - how to avoid?
    • SH: when tanks is full the indicator should give a signal which stops the operation of the toilet flush button, together with an indicator (blinking light) on the flush panel
    • Sealand toilets come with above system
    • additionally a tank overflow will be installed which drains directly overboard
  • tank material - plastic
  • tank connections
    • toilet drains
    • deck suction
    • overflow
    • overboard (with Jabsco macerator pump type 18590 (Cuno 18590-2092)- will be mounted directly on tank with threaded 1 1/2 connection, so no separate foundation required!)
    • overflow + overboard connected on 1 through hull fitting + valve (under waterline)
  • all piping - Ø50mm - PVC-C by Georg Fischer (full CAD library available on website)

grey water

  • 1x grey waste tank 16 lt Whale (in foreship, from aftship will come via pipe into this box) with the following connections:
    • showers
    • wash basins (? SH)
  • grey waste tank will drain directly overboard

steering

  • wheel Stazo (mail 24-12-2012)


electrical

  • panels 12V / 24V / 230V as Aventura 43
  • second alternator on engine 12V / 150A
  • NO optional generator (mail 01-11-2012)
  • engine - comes with a relay box which must be mounted nearby

batteries

  • 2x foreship for thruster
  • 2x aftship for thruster

instruments + navigation

  • Raymarine Bi-data
  • navigation lights - no LED

ligthing

  • LED in salon, other spaces normal lamps (but interchangable with LED (Ontwerp instructies SP-N40)
  • switch - wall mounted (mail 02-Oct-12)

70 Interior

materials

  • HPL (mail 03-10-2012, includes price offer)
  • tops - latest idea jan: Wilsonart 13mm (mail 11-28) - Wilsonart
  • sole
    • salon Baryfloor 6-6-6 (20kg/m2)
    • salon finish HPL teak and holly (1st) or PVC (2nd)
  • make several color proposals (renderings) based upon HPL (incl. non-wood)
  • hinges and closing devices as 483

sole

  • hatches where required for removing debris in bilge

upholstery

wet cabins

  • spraypainted
  • sole - Wilsonart
  • prefab unit, including systems?
  • toilet - seat height maximum 490mm (mail (26-11-2012)
  • cabin PS fore
    • try to create 600mm distance between wall and vanity (mail 01-12-2012)

salon

  • stairs - mounting as table aft deck (reinforcement in sole required?)

appliances

  • NO hood above stove
  • toilet - SeaLand MasterFlush Electric by Waeco
  • wash basins - Alape glassed steel
  • TV lift - 230V see purchase list ?!? (Ontwerp instructies SP-N40)
  • optional
    • microwave (under sidedeck?)

light plan

  • ceiling spot - under mast for access cables

80 Paint and insulation

  • insulation
    • hull - spray PU
    • decks / superstructure - Kingspan Thermaroof TR26