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== General ==
 
== General ==
 
=== Contacts ===
 
=== Contacts ===
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*client is Attila Kertesz (contractant)
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*client is Attila Kertesz (contractant), he intends to sell these boats, see [http://www.globessy.eu Globessy]
 
*yard is [http://www.centreboard.eu/ Centreboard]
 
*yard is [http://www.centreboard.eu/ Centreboard]
 
*yard contacperson is Jan van der Weide
 
*yard contacperson is Jan van der Weide
  
 +
== Issues ==
 +
*use more curved surfaces (single curvature) to create a boat atmoshpere (11mm aftwalls in toilet for example)
 +
*doors are too thin for drill in hinges (drill center goes through front face), minimum door thickness 19mm
 +
*all solid profiles to extend 1mm beyond plywood (shadow seam, less critical)
 +
*furniture doorframes 2mm thicker than doorpanel (1mm aft and 1mm fore)
 +
*corner profiles R50 are too strong, when deformed the plywood will not correct them
 +
*sole plan - add soleline
 +
*interior set up - show frame lines over all longitudinal sections
 +
*sole plan - step salon/galley - transvere board is too short at CL side (does not connect to sofa side, appears a gap of 10mm)
 +
*bulkheads/cladded webframes - require 10mm tolerance fore and aft
 +
*ceilings and lining
 +
**general - too labour intensive
 +
**Fast mount - labour intensive, partly due to tools
 +
**future: mount ceiling basewood on top of furniture before deck is mounted
 +
**basewood strips - connections are with lamello but they do not add any reinforcement (add plywood CNC part on top of it?) 
 +
**basewood rings for hatches - do not match?
 +
**deckhouse panels are too short:
 +
***offset from construction is too small
 +
***Jan moved complete interior aftward because of thicker mast bulkhead
 +
*deck positioning - because GRP deck is in aftship wider than interior dimension of caprail, the deck must be slided aftward into position, this gives conflicts with the joinery bulkheads
 +
*deck hatches - positions are not correct
 +
*furniture mouldings - round corners must be CNC milled in the future
 +
*portholes - total wallthickness in way of toilet is far too much for porthole flange
 +
*Forex - material has 1 foil protected face so panels must be mirrored, now one side of the boat is with scratched lining/ceiling panels
 
=== Classification ===
 
=== Classification ===
 
*CE-A
 
*CE-A
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== To do ==
 
== To do ==
 +
 +
=== 40 Construction ===
 +
*limberholes frames as CC40
 +
*bowsprit - model and expand
 +
*watertank / mastfoot - step on keel
 +
 
=== Panel expansions ===
 
=== Panel expansions ===
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*split:
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*salon table - match leaves and hatches for grain
−
**chart table
 
−
**table
 
 
*nav station - replacable overhead panel?
 
*nav station - replacable overhead panel?
  
 
=== Exported nests ===
 
=== Exported nests ===
−
*berth bottoms - ventilaton holes
+
*'''CHECK intersection of milling contour with adjacent plate contours'''
−
*check grain direction - filter on grain direction icon and check if they all are in the same direction
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*remove all tables
 +
*move entities to correct layer
 +
*move marking lines + texts to a seperate layer (except for part number)
 +
*check all radi
 +
*check grain direction - all in correct direction (hide all closed polylines and text)
 +
*berth bottoms - add ventilaton holes
  
 
=== Interior drawings ===
 
=== Interior drawings ===
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*70-110-0 sole plan (31-10-2011)
+
 
−
*70-120 lining plan
+
*60-100-0 set up systems (17-11-2011)
−
*70-130 ceiling plan
+
*70-100-0 set up interior (17-11-2011)
−
*70-140 Corian
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*70-110-A sole plan (05-01-2012)
−
*70-150 general detail plan
+
*70-120-A lining plan (11-11-2011)
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*70-910-0 profile list (03-10-2011)
+
*70-130-0 ceiling plan (08-11-2011)
 +
*70-140-0 Corian details (08-11-2011)
 +
*70-150-0 general detail plan (10-11-2011)
 +
*70-151-C profile list (01-10-2012)
 +
*70-160-0 cabin doors (10-11-2011)
 +
*70-161-0 salon table (10-11-2011)
 +
*70-162-0 cabin stairs (10-11-2011)
 +
*70-163-0 cooling box (10-11-2011)
 +
*70-164-0 convector grills (10-11-2011)
 +
*70-800-C nests (05-01-2012)
 +
*70-810-0 furniture expansions (16-11-2011)
 +
*70-820-0 furniture assemblies (16-11-2011)
 
*70-920-0 material estimation (07-10-2011)
 
*70-920-0 material estimation (07-10-2011)
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*70-930 hardware list ''(including catalogue)''
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*70-930-0 hardware list (16-11-2011)
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*70-500 assemblies
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*70-931-0 hardware catalogue (16-11-2011)
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*70-800 nests
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*[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ap8AYquOsgaldDJDTnlrZ0dBbXB3X01Ed3BfZzVFblE 70-940 remark list]
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*[https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VmglZxppaR26Rj08HSofrad5dOq2OCBAW_pWmA1fqz8/edit 70-941 general remarks]
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=== Other ===
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*70-950-0 general data (17-11-2011)
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*60-100 set up systems
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*70-960-0 assembly names (09-01-2012)
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**topview indicating:
 
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***position of all system items
 
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***position of all appliances
 
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**listing:
 
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***all system items
 
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***all appliances
 
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*Google document - remarks + evaluation
 
  
 
== Naval Architecture ==
 
== Naval Architecture ==
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*voorpiek met de kunststof ankerbak schuim ik helemaal vol met PUR
 
*voorpiek met de kunststof ankerbak schuim ik helemaal vol met PUR
 
*for laminate thicknesses see ''CD-BASIS 476.dwg''
 
*for laminate thicknesses see ''CD-BASIS 476.dwg''
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=== Deck mould frame ===
 +
*frame bends 8mm without plug/product (23-02-2012)
  
 
== Outfitting ==
 
== Outfitting ==
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== Interior ==
 
== Interior ==
  
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=== CNC cutting company Hungary ===
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*software [http://www.artcam.com ArtCAM]
  
 
=== Joinery entry ===
 
=== Joinery entry ===
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*15-POP-PF/PF (paint foil) - draw 15
 
*15-POP-PF/PF (paint foil) - draw 15
 
*15-BIR-SOLE 2500x1250 - draw 18
 
*15-BIR-SOLE 2500x1250 - draw 18
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*18-BIR 2500x1250 - draw 18 (ribs)
 
*supplier is [http://www.fineer.nl Kuiper Plaatveredeling]
 
*supplier is [http://www.fineer.nl Kuiper Plaatveredeling]
 
*HPL producer is [http://www.polyrey.com Polyrey]
 
*HPL producer is [http://www.polyrey.com Polyrey]

Latest revision as of 08:14, 25 October 2013

General[edit]

Contacts[edit]

  • client is Attila Kertesz (contractant), he intends to sell these boats, see Globessy
  • yard is Centreboard
  • yard contacperson is Jan van der Weide

Issues[edit]

  • use more curved surfaces (single curvature) to create a boat atmoshpere (11mm aftwalls in toilet for example)
  • doors are too thin for drill in hinges (drill center goes through front face), minimum door thickness 19mm
  • all solid profiles to extend 1mm beyond plywood (shadow seam, less critical)
  • furniture doorframes 2mm thicker than doorpanel (1mm aft and 1mm fore)
  • corner profiles R50 are too strong, when deformed the plywood will not correct them
  • sole plan - add soleline
  • interior set up - show frame lines over all longitudinal sections
  • sole plan - step salon/galley - transvere board is too short at CL side (does not connect to sofa side, appears a gap of 10mm)
  • bulkheads/cladded webframes - require 10mm tolerance fore and aft
  • ceilings and lining
    • general - too labour intensive
    • Fast mount - labour intensive, partly due to tools
    • future: mount ceiling basewood on top of furniture before deck is mounted
    • basewood strips - connections are with lamello but they do not add any reinforcement (add plywood CNC part on top of it?)
    • basewood rings for hatches - do not match?
    • deckhouse panels are too short:
      • offset from construction is too small
      • Jan moved complete interior aftward because of thicker mast bulkhead
  • deck positioning - because GRP deck is in aftship wider than interior dimension of caprail, the deck must be slided aftward into position, this gives conflicts with the joinery bulkheads
  • deck hatches - positions are not correct
  • furniture mouldings - round corners must be CNC milled in the future
  • portholes - total wallthickness in way of toilet is far too much for porthole flange
  • Forex - material has 1 foil protected face so panels must be mirrored, now one side of the boat is with scratched lining/ceiling panels

Classification[edit]

  • CE-A

Scope[edit]

  • building kit interior

Time Schedule[edit]

  • wk 35 material estimation
  • wk 38 delivery plate nest
  • as an additional free service we will integrate the systems where possible

Purchase list[edit]

  • see P:\NVK11-016 Koopmans 46' - interior\Inbox purchase list.xls

Questions[edit]

To do[edit]

40 Construction[edit]

  • limberholes frames as CC40
  • bowsprit - model and expand
  • watertank / mastfoot - step on keel

Panel expansions[edit]

  • salon table - match leaves and hatches for grain
  • nav station - replacable overhead panel?

Exported nests[edit]

  • CHECK intersection of milling contour with adjacent plate contours
  • remove all tables
  • move entities to correct layer
  • move marking lines + texts to a seperate layer (except for part number)
  • check all radi
  • check grain direction - all in correct direction (hide all closed polylines and text)
  • berth bottoms - add ventilaton holes

Interior drawings[edit]

  • 60-100-0 set up systems (17-11-2011)
  • 70-100-0 set up interior (17-11-2011)
  • 70-110-A sole plan (05-01-2012)
  • 70-120-A lining plan (11-11-2011)
  • 70-130-0 ceiling plan (08-11-2011)
  • 70-140-0 Corian details (08-11-2011)
  • 70-150-0 general detail plan (10-11-2011)
  • 70-151-C profile list (01-10-2012)
  • 70-160-0 cabin doors (10-11-2011)
  • 70-161-0 salon table (10-11-2011)
  • 70-162-0 cabin stairs (10-11-2011)
  • 70-163-0 cooling box (10-11-2011)
  • 70-164-0 convector grills (10-11-2011)
  • 70-800-C nests (05-01-2012)
  • 70-810-0 furniture expansions (16-11-2011)
  • 70-820-0 furniture assemblies (16-11-2011)
  • 70-920-0 material estimation (07-10-2011)
  • 70-930-0 hardware list (16-11-2011)
  • 70-931-0 hardware catalogue (16-11-2011)
  • 70-940 remark list
  • 70-941 general remarks
  • 70-950-0 general data (17-11-2011)
  • 70-960-0 assembly names (09-01-2012)

Naval Architecture[edit]

  • conform client:
    • total weight interior 1500kg
    • total weight appliances 800 kg (oven, the freezer, the Webasto heater, the batteries, the sinks and the toilet, the chart plotter, etc)
    • COG < DWL+500, longitudinal position near amidship

Propulsion[edit]

  • engine Lombardini LDW2204MT TM345A R.14

Construction[edit]

  • voorpiek met de kunststof ankerbak schuim ik helemaal vol met PUR
  • for laminate thicknesses see CD-BASIS 476.dwg

Deck mould frame[edit]

  • frame bends 8mm without plug/product (23-02-2012)

Outfitting[edit]

Insulation[edit]

  • PUR foam
  • shell 40-50mm
  • structure 10mm
  • joinery to stay free from foam, no insulation leaks accepted

Systems[edit]

Materials[edit]

Piping[edit]

Hull and deck penetrations[edit]

  • all drains to be accessible via hatches
  • engine exhaust VETUS 98mm penetration in de spiegel aan BB, omdat daar ook de berging en de gasflessenhouder zit ben ik benieuwd hoe ik daar nog met de dikke uitlaat leiding heen kan.
  • De berging wordt van kuststof en die incl. de gaskist moet ik van jou hebben in 3D / 2D rekening houdend met de uitlaat en WEBASTO
  • shower drain via pump and T-connection at cockpit drain
  • De lensafvoer leidingen zitten aan SB 120mm boven CWL, zie foto’s.
  • toilet drain SB
  • toilet supply PS over enginefoundation
  • waste water tank zit net met een hoek onder de WC dan kun je daar de afvoer via dek aankoppelen hoop ik.
  • penetration exhaust under in transom at CL Ø98
  • overboard bilgepumps 1” 120 mm above DWL at SB
  • drain chain locker SB 120mm above DWL
  • overboad waste water tank 2”
  • overboard engine 1 ½" BB
  • overboard WC BB 1”
  • overboard WC 1 ½" SB
  • overboard galley 1 ½" SB
  • overboard sink toilet 1” SB under waterline
  • deck fill diesel PS + SB
  • deck fill watertank SB
  • de airation to be discussed
  • toilet via 3-way valve overboard or to waste water tank (Denk dus om slangdikte (60mm) tussen PUR en WC cabine)

HVAC[edit]

  • heater - Webasto Thermo 90S - unit in aftcabin under berth between F5-F6
  • Webasto exhaust with small gooseneck in transom about 350mm under st.st. deck, at CL+150mm SB
  • Webasto expansion tank in wardrobe aft cabin?
  • convectors Jaga
  • towel radiators DRL Tekno
  • material supplier Warmteservice Zwolle
    • T: 038-467 15 20
    • E: zwolle@warmteservice.nl
    • contact person (shop manager): Job van Hoogmoed
    • convector grill: search on supllier website for 'sierrooster'

Fuel system[edit]

  • daytank
    • 60 lt
    • custom made - plastic L325xW520xH420 - wall thickness 10mm
    • overflow, deairation, filled by pump
    • position under stairs

CI proposal list:

Fresh water system[edit]

  • Boiler - Webasto 604031B000000 - Basic 40 - 40L L640xØ395 20.0kg 230V/750W

Waste water system[edit]

Exhaust system[edit]

  • exhaust hose Ø76
  • transom penetration Vetus TRCSV76
  • gooseneck Vetus LT 75
  • waterlock Vetus NLP 75

Electrical system[edit]

  • cables in accessible gutters, run to be determined
  • batteries are under forward part of highest sole
  • batteries - 3 pcs 75Ah (DG Rubber)
  • bowthruster - has it's own batterie and switch installed next to it

Switch panels[edit]

  • 230V panel - as Aventura 43
  • 230V panel - client suggested position in stairs, second riser from above
  • main power switches - 3 swithches
  • 24V panel - Philippi STV 204?
  • 24V panel - above nav station

Interior[edit]

CNC cutting company Hungary[edit]

Joinery entry[edit]

  • deck will be placed after interior is mounted

Clearance[edit]

  • steel: 20mm (10mm PUR insulation, 10mm clearance)
  • composite: 0mm for bulkheads, 5mm for furniture
  • deckhouse: sides 5mm from glass (glass is 8mm so 13mm offset from green section line is exterior face)
  • wet cabins - walls extended top up to glass, 5mm clearance from deckhouse side, ceiling against 20x20

Styling[edit]

  • see P:\NVK11-016 Koopmans 46' - interior\Inbox\Attila InteriorStyle20110711
  • initial example was Bavaria 42 - year 2005 (pictures)
  • lining - broken white in cabins and salon

Lay out[edit]

Forepeak[edit]

  • symmetrical wardrobes aft, one side shelves, ones side hanging
  • PS seat against cupboard
  • SB narrow top against cupboard
  • above bed in sides overhead lockers, free from ceiling
  • above bed against forepeak bhd an overhead locker up to ceiling (covers windlass electrical connection)
  • under bed - locker w doors and storage with hatch in bed bottom

Salon[edit]

  • table with hanging leaf (suitable for dining with 6 persons)

Galley[edit]

Chart table[edit]

Shower[edit]

  • used at sea as wet locker

Toilet[edit]

Aft cabins[edit]

  • minimum door width - 450mm


Hardware and fittings[edit]

  • finish: chrome or stainless steel gloss

Materials[edit]

  • 07-POP-TO 3050x1250 (1 side teak veneer) - draw 7
  • 15-POP-TO 3050x1250 (1 side teak veneer) - draw 15
  • 15-POP-TT 3050x1250 (2 side teak veneer) - draw 15
  • 09-POP-E021/E021 3050x1250 (Ecru) - draw 11
  • 15-POP-E021/E021 3050x1250 (Ecru) - draw 17
  • 15-POP-PF/PF (paint foil) - draw 15
  • 15-BIR-SOLE 2500x1250 - draw 18
  • 18-BIR 2500x1250 - draw 18 (ribs)
  • supplier is Kuiper Plaatveredeling
  • HPL producer is Polyrey
  • edging
    • fineer
    • 1mm ABS - furniture
    • 2mm ABS - cabin doors and frames, soleboards
  • Forex 10mm - ceiling, lining
    • density: 500 kg/m3
    • sheet sizes:
      • 2500x1220
      • 3050x1220
      • 3050x1560
      • 3050x2030
      • 4050x1560

Sole[edit]

  • De vloer dacht ik tussen de meubels te leggen. Tussen de vloeren en de meubels massief teak lijsten van een bepaalde breedte.
  • hatches rectangular
  • De vloeren zijn misschien niet volgens de tekening van Attila.
  • De hoge vloer is de wrang hoogte plus hoekstaal 50
  • De tweede vloer ligt daar 230 mm onder
  • questions:
    • Klopt het dat alle vloerdragers tegen de achterzijde van de frames zitten en de flens naar achteren wijst? Ja, dat klopt behalve waar de VWT tank komt. In mijn tekening heb ik die daar al in dwars en boven in getekend.
    • De allerlaatste achter wijst naar voren. Wrang 21 is de hoogtemaat vloer. Aan de achterkant hebben we een plat 40x5 gelast op gelijke hoogte. Dan op de diesel tanken een 50 hoekstaal. Dat moet de 230 mm verschil zijn.
    • Voor komt een vloertje in de kooi. Die heb ik schuin omhoog laten lopen en met hoekstalen recht uit gepast. Ik geef daarvoor maten.
    • Wat wordt de dikte van de vloerplaat? 18 als besproken het massieve teak onder de meubels 23mm
    • Komt er nog iets tussen het staal en de vloerplaat? Nee.
  • Omdat het een volledig open bak is moeten we werken alsof we een polyester serieboot inbouwen. Zoveel mogelijk meubels buiten de boot maken, compleet met achterwanden.

Appliances[edit]

Galley[edit]

Toilet[edit]

  • manual toilet - Jabsco? (as CB 40')


Berths[edit]

  • matrass 100mm
  • ventilation: holes in bed bottom

Miscelaneous[edit]

  • Sikaforce is used to seal sharp corners in bilge
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