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== General ==
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*yard budget for developing and building 1st hull €35.000 (Floating 44 was €20.000, Comforship was €40.000 (done by Michiel van Vossen))
 
*Material - aluminum
 
*Material - aluminum
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*CE Category C (required by marina's)
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*floating hotel room, will never leave it's berth after mooring
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*Hull - as cheap as possbile to produce (combination of smart engineering, material reduction and labor reduction)
 
*Floating 44 (project 13006):
 
*Floating 44 (project 13006):
 
**displacement 14 tons
 
**displacement 14 tons
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**see dwg P:\Offers\14004 Houseboat\Final draw
 
**see dwg P:\Offers\14004 Houseboat\Final draw
  
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== Scope ==
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*NA/calculations (total 128h)
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**hydrostatics/weight estimation(interpolation/construction) (40h)
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**intact stability (16h)
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**damaged stability (32h)
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**roof strength (24h)
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**glass thickness (8h)
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**frame strength (8h)
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*ME (total 132h)
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**building kit (120h)
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**additional construction details (12h)
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===Additional===
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*7 superstructure frames (5 onder, 2 boven)
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*hatch hull
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*NO railing
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*NO stairs interior
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*NO stairs exterior
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*NO 'kraaiennest'
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*bridge connection
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*calculate influence of filled whirlpool on heel
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==Meeting notes==
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*28-Feb by phone:
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**sheetsize 3x2m
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**WT BHD at each side of shell seam/plate at 200mm distance (so the boat will have a double transom)
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**faecalientank will be between the mainhulls so bench does NOT need to be removable
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**hot tub won't penetrate sandwich panel anymore
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**wooden beams on forward part outboard side on longitudinal alu beam, as on inboard side (not with FB to U-profile)
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**U-profile will be bolted so the sandwich panel can be glued down to the beams - create detail for this (FB welded to beam?)
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**standpipe in technical space as in Floating 44 (Ø185, see drawing 'FINAL DRAWING Floating 44)
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***Gielissen will send drawing with indication of space for technical hatch)
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**Monday or latest Tuesday to send an update of the construction drawing (without details) 
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*20-Feb by phone:
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**glass at sides to be 8mm tempered monolythic (exterior pane)
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**other glass to be 4-16-4
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**8 persons to be considered for stability
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*Peter will inform if boat needs to be sailing or not for CE approval
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*BOA 4980mm for roadtransport (including wooden sideplanking)
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*sceptic tank [http://www.afmitech.com/products/bever-combi-compact-buoyant Afmitech Bever Combi Compact]
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**contact person Jan Boede de Jong
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**tank W2200 (possibly W2000) to be fitted between hulls, as far aft as possible
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**bench and bathing platform to be removable for this purpose
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**hull fixtures by Navyk
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*insulated and heated drain hose for whirlpool Ø80mm
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*Dual Docker removable mounting plates by Navyk
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*removable cleats by Navyk (see pictures)
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*wooden planking
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**Lariks 28mm
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**beams H60mm
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*bathing area in front of bench
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**alu grills on alu structure
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**grills tbd by Linskens
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===hull construction===
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*bended sheets 3x2m
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*on top 21mm wide flanges
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*bottom slightly rounded for additional stifness (10mm)
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*bow
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**rectangular in planview
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**sloped in sideview
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*all tubes rectangular 120x60
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*cut out in tubes for draining rainwater from deck
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*70mm distance between platform beams and deck
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*NO double transom (Floating 44)
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*technical space
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**in SB hull
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**access hatch CO 500x500
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**space position by Niels
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*pipe through hull in way of whirlpool for drainpipe?
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*bridge connection
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*top of wooden planking in line with interior sole
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===house===
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*roof of sandwich panel (Kingspan Unidek):
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**faces 12mm chipboard P5 or P7
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**ESP core, thickness as desired
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**wooden ribs (pine), width as desired
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**wooden ribs at 450 COC (can probably be customized too)
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**maximum panel length 8500
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**beams are in longitudinal direction
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*side walls
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*load for strength calculation to be determined by Linskens
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===Questions===
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*aluminum sheet dimension?
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*black water tank final dimensions?
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*position for technical space?
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*through hull pipe dimensions?
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*will the U profile on the side be welded or bolted?
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*what is the function of the small rectangular profile on top of the swim platform planks?
  
 
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Latest revision as of 14:16, 28 February 2014

General[edit]

  • yard budget for developing and building 1st hull €35.000 (Floating 44 was €20.000, Comforship was €40.000 (done by Michiel van Vossen))
  • Material - aluminum
  • CE Category C (required by marina's)
  • floating hotel room, will never leave it's berth after mooring
  • Hull - as cheap as possbile to produce (combination of smart engineering, material reduction and labor reduction)
  • Floating 44 (project 13006):
    • displacement 14 tons
    • floating at DWL
    • trim aft 40mm
    • transverse cross stiffeners removed
    • see dwg P:\Offers\14004 Houseboat\Final draw


Scope[edit]

  • NA/calculations (total 128h)
    • hydrostatics/weight estimation(interpolation/construction) (40h)
    • intact stability (16h)
    • damaged stability (32h)
    • roof strength (24h)
    • glass thickness (8h)
    • frame strength (8h)
  • ME (total 132h)
    • building kit (120h)
    • additional construction details (12h)

Additional[edit]

  • 7 superstructure frames (5 onder, 2 boven)
  • hatch hull
  • NO railing
  • NO stairs interior
  • NO stairs exterior
  • NO 'kraaiennest'
  • bridge connection
  • calculate influence of filled whirlpool on heel

Meeting notes[edit]

  • 28-Feb by phone:
    • sheetsize 3x2m
    • WT BHD at each side of shell seam/plate at 200mm distance (so the boat will have a double transom)
    • faecalientank will be between the mainhulls so bench does NOT need to be removable
    • hot tub won't penetrate sandwich panel anymore
    • wooden beams on forward part outboard side on longitudinal alu beam, as on inboard side (not with FB to U-profile)
    • U-profile will be bolted so the sandwich panel can be glued down to the beams - create detail for this (FB welded to beam?)
    • standpipe in technical space as in Floating 44 (Ø185, see drawing 'FINAL DRAWING Floating 44)
      • Gielissen will send drawing with indication of space for technical hatch)
    • Monday or latest Tuesday to send an update of the construction drawing (without details)
  • 20-Feb by phone:
    • glass at sides to be 8mm tempered monolythic (exterior pane)
    • other glass to be 4-16-4
    • 8 persons to be considered for stability
  • Peter will inform if boat needs to be sailing or not for CE approval
  • BOA 4980mm for roadtransport (including wooden sideplanking)
  • sceptic tank Afmitech Bever Combi Compact
    • contact person Jan Boede de Jong
    • tank W2200 (possibly W2000) to be fitted between hulls, as far aft as possible
    • bench and bathing platform to be removable for this purpose
    • hull fixtures by Navyk
  • insulated and heated drain hose for whirlpool Ø80mm
  • Dual Docker removable mounting plates by Navyk
  • removable cleats by Navyk (see pictures)
  • wooden planking
    • Lariks 28mm
    • beams H60mm
  • bathing area in front of bench
    • alu grills on alu structure
    • grills tbd by Linskens

hull construction[edit]

  • bended sheets 3x2m
  • on top 21mm wide flanges
  • bottom slightly rounded for additional stifness (10mm)
  • bow
    • rectangular in planview
    • sloped in sideview
  • all tubes rectangular 120x60
  • cut out in tubes for draining rainwater from deck
  • 70mm distance between platform beams and deck
  • NO double transom (Floating 44)
  • technical space
    • in SB hull
    • access hatch CO 500x500
    • space position by Niels
  • pipe through hull in way of whirlpool for drainpipe?
  • bridge connection
  • top of wooden planking in line with interior sole

house[edit]

  • roof of sandwich panel (Kingspan Unidek):
    • faces 12mm chipboard P5 or P7
    • ESP core, thickness as desired
    • wooden ribs (pine), width as desired
    • wooden ribs at 450 COC (can probably be customized too)
    • maximum panel length 8500
    • beams are in longitudinal direction
  • side walls
  • load for strength calculation to be determined by Linskens


Questions[edit]

  • aluminum sheet dimension?
  • black water tank final dimensions?
  • position for technical space?
  • through hull pipe dimensions?
  • will the U profile on the side be welded or bolted?
  • what is the function of the small rectangular profile on top of the swim platform planks?