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== Differences between building kit 1 and 2 ==
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==BN04 ''Schulz''==
  
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'''FEEDBACK'''
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*freeing port - move aft, now it interferes with upper step of boarding ladder, people accidentially put their foot in it and hurt it when they continue their
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*empty boat
 +
**sails fantastic
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**trims may be 1 degree aft
 +
**stern thruster takes air
 +
*full tanks
 +
**boat trims bow down
 +
**fantastic steering
 +
**turning cicle too big
 +
**stern thruster to be lowered 50-100mm
 +
convectors dinette and ac not good due too insufficient air supply, direct under table drill as in ac topside
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schulz is enthousiast, accept for standard nagging
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4mm steel rings under Vetus dorado nest in st.st. 3mm minimum (boat goes to salt water)
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sofa aftdeck, lower edge of sofa and upper edge of foundation with perpendicular sleeves of 12mm to avoid necessary drilling for aligning holes which creates rust
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 +
'''REMARKS'''
 +
 +
*linesplan - to avoid ballast add volume in aftship (improves shower aftcabin) or decrease in foreship (improves air draft)
 +
**update weight calculation with Jan his remarks/missing weights?
 +
***cabrio hood
 +
*windscreen - move wiper engines up to increase clearance with deck (ask Jan how much)
 +
*see mail Jan 10-Dec-2013 (Projects/13041 Spatio Navis 40 B04)
 +
*bow - add Ø20mm bar at intersection with sides, shorten shellplating '''DONE'''
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*superstructure - move side plate (with cutout for large window) 10mm outboard '''DONE'''
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*forward cabin top - move up to gain 20mm distance between wet cabin top and frame '''CANCELED 04-Feb'''
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*superstructure bolting flanges - make horizontal, forward and aft by extending deck plating > trim aftside of lower superstructure roof round with interior moulding, as foredeck, and ADD deckframe 17 '''DONE'''
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*check if lower edges of steering console and side cheeks got 10mm st.st. bar (George?) '''DONE'''
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*foredeck - extend into cabin, combine with interior rim? (mail Jan 29-Jan) '''DONE'''
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*systems
 +
**make in SC
 +
**seperate hot and cold water (see mail Jan 21-Jan SN02)
 +
**mill interior contours on sole
 +
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==BN03 ''Schulz''==
 +
*paint waterline - indicate correct position on drawing (general contruction plan?)
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*total hours steel - 536
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==BN02 ''Schulz''==
 
*Rope fender detail.'''DONE'''
 
*Rope fender detail.'''DONE'''
 
*Rectangular pillar support. '''DONE'''
 
*Rectangular pillar support. '''DONE'''
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*Make deck frames in fore peak 50 like in aft.
 
*Make deck frames in fore peak 50 like in aft.
  
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== TBD 'till Wednesday ==
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===FEEDBACK===
 +
*total hours interior about 4500
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====interior====
 +
*bulkhead panel at dinette mirrorwise in nest
 +
 
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==BN01 ''Schulz''==
 +
===FEEDBACK===
 +
*after launching 10 August 2013 Berlin
 +
*after sailing 2 days end of October 2013 Berlin
 +
====naval architecture====
 +
*hydrostatics
 +
**floats around (modified) waterline but trimmed aft, about 2.5 degrees
 +
*stability
 +
**great initial stability (a person on the side deck hardly effects heeling)
 +
**heeling with persons on sidedeck:
 +
***80kg 1.3°
 +
***177kg 2.5°
 +
***260kg 3.2°
 +
***337kg 4.0°
 +
***418kg 5.1°
 +
***485kg 5.8°
 +
***564kg 6.4°
 +
***657kg 7.4°
 +
***757kg 8.6°
 +
***869kg 9.6°
 +
*sailing characteristics
 +
**good directional stability
 +
**good sailing characteristics
 +
**powerful bowthruster, very confenient
 +
**reverse
 +
***boat starts 'spinning'
 +
***manouvres very easy with rudder in neutral position and steering with bow thruster
 +
**speed
 +
***easily achieves hull speed
 +
***@2200 14.8 knots (or km/h?) and no trim
 +
***topspeed is ? (Jan?)
 +
***topspeed generates only small waves
 +
**at full speed the swimplatform just remains dry
 +
**motor is overdimensioned (request of owner)
 +
**engine noiselevels
 +
***outside little noisy (comes via morse cable?)
 +
***inside you hardly hear the engine
 +
 
 +
=====trim measurements (by Jan)=====
 +
*conditions:
 +
**FW tank full (300 liter)
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**Fuel tank full (500 liter)
 +
*measurement with 80kg on foredeck
 +
**distance WL to lower fenderstrip at bow is 1460mm
 +
*measurements without Jan
 +
**distance WL to lower fenderstrip in way of freeing port (about midship) is 950mm
 +
**distance WL to knuckle at transom is 70mm
 +
*measurement with 265kg on foredeck
 +
**bow lowers 40mm
 +
 
 +
=====missing items in weight estimation=====
 +
*Todd bench aftdeck - 20kg
 +
*cabrio hood - 50kg
 +
*ceilings
 +
*Corian surfaces and bowls
  
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===Construction===
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====interior====
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*cable guides thruster in way of FW tank
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*forecabin - entrance door interferes with bathroom doors - 2nd boat the entrance door will open aftward
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*cable penetrations ER bhd's
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*lack of storage drawers (for example for shoes)
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*piping
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*showerwater does not drain (yard problem)
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**heating
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*missing curtain (yard)
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**FW
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*electric switches - are hit when you pass by (yard)
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**drains
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*galley - no towel hooks
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*forecabin - more cloth hooks
  
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===Systems===
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====outfitting====
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*Waste water tank
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*fenderlines cannot be tied to anything - 2nd and 3rd boat will have sleeves cut under tube in railing screen
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*bilge
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*entrance hatch - cannot be locked (yard)
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*bilge pump strainer
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*windows and windowframes - lots of condens during sailing in autumn
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*grey water pump
 
  
 
== General ==
 
== General ==
  
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*salesprice 215.000 € ex VAT
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*salesprice BN01 205.000 € ex VAT (Schulz)
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*salesprice BN02 215.000 € ex VAT (Schulz)
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*salesprice BN03 230/240.000 € ex VAT (Schulz?)
 
*to compete with:
 
*to compete with:
 
**Jetten 37 AC
 
**Jetten 37 AC
 
**Aventura 38 AC
 
**Aventura 38 AC
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*initial client - boat rental [http://www.bootsurlaub.de/ Schulz], renting a lot to group of man (biliart clubs, etc.)
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*initial client - boat rental [http://www.bootsurlaub.de/ Schulz], [https://www.facebook.com/Bootsurlaub Facebook] 2 brothers; Thomas and Steffen, renting a lot to group of man (biliart clubs, etc.)
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===Questions===
 
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*sump strainer - mounting? provisions in construction?
 
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*electric windlass - additional batteries? where?
 
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*cable routing foreship - salon (thruster + windlass)
 
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*bending radius white hose Ø38
 
  
 
===Classification===
 
===Classification===
 
*CE-C
 
*CE-C
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===Planning===
 
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*21-12-2012 construction drawings plus nest
 
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*07-01-2012 final cutting files in NL
 
  
 
===Yard budget===
 
===Yard budget===
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*70-940 hardware catalogue
 
*70-940 hardware catalogue
 
*70-950 assembly names
 
*70-950 assembly names
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== To do ==
 
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===building kit steel===
 
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*stringer topside - in way of galley/dinnette, move below galley top, make horizontal if possible - TM
 
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*frames - radi in way of sole are too big, reduce to gain as much space as possible for the interior - TM
 
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*frames - need to have same width for the frames (e.g. 40 mm or 50 mm in fore cabin and not both) - also more frames, to help the displacement of the ceiling - TM
 
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*thruster bearing plate - 12mm thick, reinforce with brackets in way of engine girder top plate (mail 22-12-2012)
 
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*build moulds - remove from nest (mail 22-12-2012)
 
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*portholes aft cabin to be confirmed by Jan (mail 22-12-2012)
 
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*frame 01 on SB, support for furniture must be cut (no longer of use) - TM
 
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*need additional frames to support ceiling under deck, dinette and galley - TM
 
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*aft cabin, on the headboard of the bed there is a top plate - see if there can be made some additional steel supports to sustain this plate - TM
 
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* Companionway- cut steel parts and make hole for drain.
 
  
 
== 10 Design ==
 
== 10 Design ==
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== 20 Naval Architecture ==
 
== 20 Naval Architecture ==
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=== FEEDBACK after launching 10 August 2013 Berlin ===
 
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*floats at waterline but trimmed aft
 
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*heeling so small that it can be ignored
 
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*good directional stability
 
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*good sailing characteristics except reverse:
 
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*in reverse boats starts 'spinning'
 
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*at full speed the swimplatform just remains dry
 
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====trim measurements (by Jan)====
 
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*conditions:
 
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**FW tank full (300 liter)
 
−
**Fuel tank full (500 liter)
 
−
*measurement with 80kg on foredeck
 
−
**distance WL to lower fenderstrip at bow is 1460mm
 
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*measurements without Jan
 
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**distance WL to lower fenderstrip in way of freeing port (about midship) is 950mm
 
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**distance WL to knuckle at transom is 70mm
 
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*measurement with 265kg on foredeck
 
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**bow lowers 40mm
 
  
 
===transom rounding===
 
===transom rounding===

Latest revision as of 10:51, 27 March 2015

BN04 Schulz[edit]

FEEDBACK

  • freeing port - move aft, now it interferes with upper step of boarding ladder, people accidentially put their foot in it and hurt it when they continue their
  • empty boat
    • sails fantastic
    • trims may be 1 degree aft
    • stern thruster takes air
  • full tanks
    • boat trims bow down
    • fantastic steering
    • turning cicle too big
    • stern thruster to be lowered 50-100mm

convectors dinette and ac not good due too insufficient air supply, direct under table drill as in ac topside schulz is enthousiast, accept for standard nagging 4mm steel rings under Vetus dorado nest in st.st. 3mm minimum (boat goes to salt water) sofa aftdeck, lower edge of sofa and upper edge of foundation with perpendicular sleeves of 12mm to avoid necessary drilling for aligning holes which creates rust

REMARKS

  • linesplan - to avoid ballast add volume in aftship (improves shower aftcabin) or decrease in foreship (improves air draft)
    • update weight calculation with Jan his remarks/missing weights?
      • cabrio hood
  • windscreen - move wiper engines up to increase clearance with deck (ask Jan how much)
  • see mail Jan 10-Dec-2013 (Projects/13041 Spatio Navis 40 B04)
  • bow - add Ø20mm bar at intersection with sides, shorten shellplating DONE
  • superstructure - move side plate (with cutout for large window) 10mm outboard DONE
  • forward cabin top - move up to gain 20mm distance between wet cabin top and frame CANCELED 04-Feb
  • superstructure bolting flanges - make horizontal, forward and aft by extending deck plating > trim aftside of lower superstructure roof round with interior moulding, as foredeck, and ADD deckframe 17 DONE
  • check if lower edges of steering console and side cheeks got 10mm st.st. bar (George?) DONE
  • foredeck - extend into cabin, combine with interior rim? (mail Jan 29-Jan) DONE
  • systems
    • make in SC
    • seperate hot and cold water (see mail Jan 21-Jan SN02)
    • mill interior contours on sole

BN03 Schulz[edit]

  • paint waterline - indicate correct position on drawing (general contruction plan?)
  • total hours steel - 536

BN02 Schulz[edit]

  • Rope fender detail.DONE
  • Rectangular pillar support. DONE
  • Cutout in diesel tank for: engine tour and retour, heater intake and breather. Crossover pipe moved more aft because of BHD stringers. DONE
  • Added closing plate for ventilation in aft toilets in wings. DONE
  • New cutouts through shell for toilet and engine strainer.
  • Supports for hot water and heating pipes and cutouts.
  • Cutout for fresh water from tank in frames.
  • Railing plate added after fillet radius changed conform CC40 railing plan.
  • F5 cut, new LG SKLG.
  • F14+150PS from deck moved at F14.
  • Cutout for heating exhaust moved 65mm fwd because for boiler support.
  • Bracket incorporated in rudder support for angle indicator.
  • Handrail in transom move on wall, for this the 230V HIP must move down? (now the handrail is on bench).
  • Support for toilet pump in ER.
  • Stringers for rope fender cut in aft part according to st. st. detail.
  • Make 1 HIP for ME gooseneck.
  • HIP in steering support for rudder stopper round bar diameter 30mm.
  • Added 5mm rope fender tensioner bkt.
  • Saloon ventilation via console cancelled.
  • Add 3D views is transverse construction for next boat.
  • Move side stringers near portholes move 50mm down.
  • Make deck frames in fore peak 50 like in aft.

FEEDBACK[edit]

  • total hours interior about 4500

interior[edit]

  • bulkhead panel at dinette mirrorwise in nest

BN01 Schulz[edit]

FEEDBACK[edit]

  • after launching 10 August 2013 Berlin
  • after sailing 2 days end of October 2013 Berlin

naval architecture[edit]

  • hydrostatics
    • floats around (modified) waterline but trimmed aft, about 2.5 degrees
  • stability
    • great initial stability (a person on the side deck hardly effects heeling)
    • heeling with persons on sidedeck:
      • 80kg 1.3°
      • 177kg 2.5°
      • 260kg 3.2°
      • 337kg 4.0°
      • 418kg 5.1°
      • 485kg 5.8°
      • 564kg 6.4°
      • 657kg 7.4°
      • 757kg 8.6°
      • 869kg 9.6°
  • sailing characteristics
    • good directional stability
    • good sailing characteristics
    • powerful bowthruster, very confenient
    • reverse
      • boat starts 'spinning'
      • manouvres very easy with rudder in neutral position and steering with bow thruster
    • speed
      • easily achieves hull speed
      • @2200 14.8 knots (or km/h?) and no trim
      • topspeed is ? (Jan?)
      • topspeed generates only small waves
    • at full speed the swimplatform just remains dry
    • motor is overdimensioned (request of owner)
    • engine noiselevels
      • outside little noisy (comes via morse cable?)
      • inside you hardly hear the engine
trim measurements (by Jan)[edit]
  • conditions:
    • FW tank full (300 liter)
    • Fuel tank full (500 liter)
  • measurement with 80kg on foredeck
    • distance WL to lower fenderstrip at bow is 1460mm
  • measurements without Jan
    • distance WL to lower fenderstrip in way of freeing port (about midship) is 950mm
    • distance WL to knuckle at transom is 70mm
  • measurement with 265kg on foredeck
    • bow lowers 40mm
missing items in weight estimation[edit]
  • Todd bench aftdeck - 20kg
  • cabrio hood - 50kg
  • ceilings
  • Corian surfaces and bowls

interior[edit]

  • forecabin - entrance door interferes with bathroom doors - 2nd boat the entrance door will open aftward
  • lack of storage drawers (for example for shoes)
  • showerwater does not drain (yard problem)
  • missing curtain (yard)
  • electric switches - are hit when you pass by (yard)
  • galley - no towel hooks
  • forecabin - more cloth hooks

outfitting[edit]

  • fenderlines cannot be tied to anything - 2nd and 3rd boat will have sleeves cut under tube in railing screen
  • entrance hatch - cannot be locked (yard)
  • windows and windowframes - lots of condens during sailing in autumn

General[edit]

  • salesprice BN01 205.000 € ex VAT (Schulz)
  • salesprice BN02 215.000 € ex VAT (Schulz)
  • salesprice BN03 230/240.000 € ex VAT (Schulz?)
  • to compete with:
    • Jetten 37 AC
    • Aventura 38 AC
  • initial client - boat rental Schulz, Facebook 2 brothers; Thomas and Steffen, renting a lot to group of man (biliart clubs, etc.)

Classification[edit]

  • CE-C

Yard budget[edit]

  • estimated (mail 01-Jun-12):
    • steel 700
    • wood 750
    • paint 750
    • systems 350
    • sandblasting 100
    • outfitting and delivery 150

Supplier discounts[edit]

  • 20% Marine Booster
  • 40% Stazo
  • 25% Webasto

Drawing list[edit]

  • Note:
    • Below list is not complete
    • Drawings can be combined if suitable
  • CE?

10 Design and styling[edit]

  • 10-100 general arrangement
  • 10-910 general data
    • net weight construction
    • net weight interior
    • total weight
    • COG
  • 3D presentation models?
  • renderings?

20 Naval Architecture[edit]

30 Propulsion[edit]

40 Construction[edit]

  • 40-100 longitudinal construction plan
    • tank arrangement
    • propulsion arrangement
    • rudder arrangement
    • fender details
    • portholes and hatches
    • windows
    • bench aftdeck
    • ventilation
  • 40-110 transverse construction plan (SC)
  • 40-130 shell penetrations
  • 40-200 expansions hull (SC)
  • 40-210 expansions superstructure (SC)
  • 40-220 bending and forming
  • 40-300 build moulds
  • 40-400 plate nests steel
  • 40-410 plate nests stainless steel
  • 40-800 FW tank
  • 40-810 WW tank
  • 40-820 Battery box+
  • 40-830 Chain locker
  • 40-910 material estimation steel
  • 40-920 key data
    • net weight
    • brut weight
    • loss %
    • COG
    • cutting length

50 Outfitting[edit]

  • 50-110 companion way
  • 50-115 windows
  • 50-120 windscreen
  • 50-160 stainless steel (incl. material estimation or on separate document?)
    • railing
    • table aft deck
    • bow protection plate
    • hand rails
    • mast
  • 50-170 steering arrangement
  • 50-180 chain box
  • 50-210 sprayhood and bimini
  • 50-220 dashboard panel

60 Systems[edit]

  • 60-100 bilge drainage
  • 60-110 exhaust gas
  • 60-120 ME cooling
  • 60-130 fuel system
  • 60-140 fresh water system
  • 60-150 waste water system
  • 60-160 heating
  • 60-170 electric

70 Interior[edit]

  • 70-100 set up interior
  • 70-105 general detail plan
  • 70-110 sole plan
  • 70-120 lining plan
  • 70-121 base wood plan
  • 70-130 ceiling plan
  • 70-140 lighting plan
  • 70-150 profile list
  • 70-160 cabin doors
  • 70-161 salon table
  • 70-162 cabin stairs
  • 70-163 cooling box
  • 70-170 upholstery
  • 70-800 nests
  • 70-810 furniture expansions
  • 70-820 furniture assemblies
  • 70-910 key data
    • net weight
    • brut weight
    • loss %
    • COG
    • cutting length
  • 70-920 material estimation plywood
  • 70-930 hardware list
  • 70-940 hardware catalogue
  • 70-950 assembly names

10 Design[edit]

  • sales strategy is to offer as much berths as possible for the lowest price so the boat will be very interesting for the rental market
  • only developable surfaces:
    • no forming plates
    • no bending plates
    • only 'radiused' plates
  • simple and cheap - the less components the cheaper to build
  • furniture to be split in units which can be prefabricated outside the boat (and outside the premises)
  • sidedeck steps - not IN bathrooms but well before them (possible use for breathers)
  • transom stairs
    • width 500-550 (older people)
  • last step ending under 45 degrees with CL
    • transom gas locker PS - for 2x 5kg gas bottle
  • swimplatform
    • length minimum 800mm
    • swimplatform - lower part at least 200mm above DWL (to avoid slamming waves against swimplatform
  • transom corners - well rounded
  • transom cheeks with knuckles?
  • sidedecks - 450mm wide
  • superstructure - max width 3100-3150
  • bench aftdeck - initially steel, later GRP?
  • railing cloths - steel (Schulz)
  • rope fender around hull
  • rubber fender around swimplatform
  • steering
    • wheel Ø800
    • wheel nearly horizontal

50 outfitting[edit]

  • windows
    • sliding window in salon side
    • supplier - Rhigo (mail 03-11-2012)
  • portholes
    • supplier - Gebo
    • PS and SB can be non symmetrical
    • hull - glue plexiglass/lexan?
    • hull - combine with ER air intake?
  • deck hatches
    • supplier - Gebo
    • make sure you can reach the hatch for closing/opening
    • entrance hatch - GRP Centerboard standard
  • doors
    • transom door - Gebo hatch 900x600
  • gas locker
    • door Belship
  • ventilation
    • very important and permanent
    • all spaces
  • aftdeck
    • fridge
    • sink + tap
    • helmsman seat - Swingback Seat with Stainless Steel Arms Todd USA (fridge integrated?) (mail 16-10-2012)

70 interior[edit]

  • aftcabin
    • bed under 45 degrees against transom
    • option for double cabin layout (can be non symmetric)
    • double bed convertible into 2 single beds (sliding/hinging system, seen on Greenline 33)
  • headroom
    • bathrooms 1900

20 Naval Architecture[edit]

transom rounding[edit]

  • well rounded to avoid damage during leaving quai side
  • keep step of 150mm next to stairs so you can step on the quai side
  • hull transom can stop before rounding (shortening hull)

tanks[edit]

  • capacity (Ontwerp instructies SP-N40):
    • 500l FW (because of 2 showers)
    • 300l fuel
    • 500l WW (for example in keel, to not create heel/trim)
  • tank status to not influence trim/heel
  • all custom made PP tanks
  • fuel - if only 1 tank forward of engine than steel tank against bhd, not attached to shell, condens sump with baffle plate above and tap

30 Propulsion[edit]

  • engine - IVECO N45 MNA M10.2 74 KW 100PK (mail 15-10-12)
    • adjustabel mounting with spacers (as CC40?) (mail 19-11-12)
  • gearbox - Technodrive TM93 (mail 15-10-12) ratio 2.09:1 (phone 10-12-12)
  • coupling/thrusterbearing
    • Aquadrive (Ontwerp instructies SP-N40)
    • angles of Aquadrive in and out to be equal
  • shaft Ø40 ITAL cone 1:10
  • propellor - 'standard'
  • nozzle - canceled (by phone 5-11-2012) alternative prop protection with 2 horizontal fins welded to the keel/skeg, length is half prop Ø
  • bow and stern thruster - Sidepower 100kgm 12V in tube Ø185 (confirmed 6-11-12 by mail)
  • suggestion Schulz: Craftsman CM4.80 - price for 5 pcs €7700
  • Schulz: Deutz 1013M engines are very reliable
  • Schulz: replacing 10 propellors per year, sometimes including shaft, because of under water rocks/stones
  • rudder
    • plastic 50mm
    • sheet size 2000x1000 - consider when designing rudder (width <=500 for example)
  • shaft lubrication - with hose connected to exhaust breather (see pictures Aventura 43)

40 Construction[edit]

  • as cheap as possible (simple, light)
  • yard budget 600 manhours
  • side stiffening - longitudinal FB CNC
  • transverse bottom stiffening - CNC frames ending against stringer
  • roof beams - CNC (profile is hard to make them all exact the same)
  • round corners of pipe segment - choose 1 radius for all corners
  • NOTE: developable expansions with overlength 150 (distance between rolls of Jan his machine)
  • sole
    • longitudinal rectangular tubes 60x40x3(as Aventura 43), used for cables too (thrusters, windlass)
    • partially removable for entering/rotating the sanitary units
  • salon will be 'removable' in order to bring in the prefabbed interior parts, coupling detail as CC40, see notes inbox\'Ontwerp instructies SP-N40.doc'
  • sandblasting - make sure all spaces are accessible for sand blasting
  • moulds - boat is build upside down (including lower part of superstructure), deliver moulds with first boat
  • rudder cylinder foundation - consider VDO rudder sensor
  • incorporate:
    • ears/lips for interior positioning
    • ears/rings/holes for piping
    • system foundations
  • steering position
    • instruments removed from IVECO panel
    • Trespa panel (ga ik gebruiken want ik heb hier nogal wat liggen.)
    • window wiper panel
    • VDO FO gauge
    • VDO FW gauge
    • WW gauge
    • Ray Marine Tridata or Bidata
    • VDO rudder angle indicator
    • Side-Power panel
    • panel with 6 rocker switches for:
      • horn
      • de activate buzzer
      • instrument lighting + navigation lights
      • anchor light
      • bilgepump
      • bench lighting aftdeck (optional)
    • engine control (side mounted)
    • may be - radio control
  • bulwark pipe 1" thick walled (33.4x3.25)
  • swimplatform
    • open construction
    • draining aft (1.5° at CL)

Paneel ook zo opbouwen met lange lasbochten (5S?) en achter een 10mm RVS rond. In het frame plaat met gat –randen 30 mm- waarbij Trespa plaat bovenzijde op hart buis ligt.

Penetrations[edit]

  • standpipes:
    • steel
    • length 50mm + thread

hull[edit]

below DWL[edit]
  • 1x cooling water ME
  • 1x black water over board (1.1/2" conform Jan)
  • 2x inlet toilet (1" conform Jan in mail 8-12-12)
  • 2x transducers of bi data (HIP Ø52 see mail Rimare 12-12-12) (2 holes confirmed by phone by Ronald from Rimare on 20-12-2012 ('it concerns a Seatalk 1 generation instrument'))
  • 1x rudder shaft (HIP Ø61)
at DWL +50[edit]
  • 1x galley (1.1/2" conform Jan)
  • 1x bilge (1.1/2" conform Jan in mail 8-12-12)
  • 1x grey water
  • 2x side deck drains
other[edit]
  • exhaust at DWL +100
  • exhaust heater?
  • chain box - inox pipe 1/2", penetration and cut under an angle so a scoop will appear (hose ID21 white)
  • shore connection at transom (HIP Ø56, DG Rubber)
  • shore connection in transom SB, as high as possible
  • topsides, under ropefender at same distance:
    • deck drains
    • FW breather
    • WW breather
  • ER air intake
  • portholes
  • steering console: engine control

deck[edit]

  • windlass - chain through deck with pipe st.st.Ø88.9
  • ventilation through aftdeck - st.st. 2.1/2" (76)
  • side deck drains st.st.
  • fill FO
  • fill FW
  • suction WW

superstructure[edit]

  • forecabin - cable penetration mast st.st.Ø35x2 (40 above deck, 10 below deck)
  • window wipers - 3x socket
  • breather FO
  • portholes
  • windows
  • deckhatches
  • companionway

tanks[edit]

  • breather - pipe OD25 (mail 8-12-12)
  • filling - pipe 1.1/2" (mail 8-12-12)
  • cross over - pipe 1.1/2" with male thread and 2x valve
  • retour - socket for 1/4" copper pipe
  • supply - socket welded in top, suction pipe in tank

50 Outfitting[edit]

ER sole[edit]

  • aluminum 5mm
  • width max. 600
  • covered with anti slip foil (see paint and insulation)

ventilation[edit]

  • forecabin - 2 mushrooms on cabin
  • wet cabins fore - 2 mushrooms on cabin with Vetus ventilator
  • salon/galley - 2x dorade
  • wet cabins aft
    • pipe Ø76 st.st. through deck with Vetus ventilator (40mm under deck)
    • flexible hose Ø76 (black or white) connects st.st. deck penetrations to Vetus ventilators (mail 8-12-12)
  • aft cabin - 2x pipe Ø76 in bench?
  • steering console ventilation to salon or aft cabin?

steering[edit]

  • Levanto 38 has comparable displacement and steers well so we will try to use the same system BUT we have to use components of CUNO if possible:
    • arm yard made
    • cylinder Ultraflex UC215-I (111kgm)- LC465 40-52, 115kgm from CUNO
    • pump Ultraflex UP39 - LS451140, 40cc, with check valve and mounting bracket included from CUNO
    • wheel Ø575 (conform dwg)- Model for this project Ø550 Stazo type 12
    • arm strikes are tube 60x30
    • cylinder stroke should be slightly bigger then strike

fenders[edit]

  • lower fender of rubber around swimplatform (well rounded corners) - starting at aft ER bulkhead, modified Aventura 43 profile, shore 90 (ask for new drawing)
    • min. bending radius R=500mm (mail 23-11-2012)
  • rope fender
    • Ø110 (mail 22-11-2012)
    • around hull and transom cheeks (renters succeed to damage even this part of the boat with manouvring)
    • turnbuckles: M12, max. length 350mm

windlass arrangement[edit]

  • manual Cuno - Lofrans Royal
  • chainpipe 76x2mm RVS 304 through bow
  • anchor - 35kg st.st. polished - TBS?

navigation lights[edit]

  • no LED
  • boardlights - mounting by yard (see pictures Vacance 1300)
  • anchorlight
  • steamlight
  • sternlight

stainless steel[edit]

  • 4x double bollards - for dimensions see PDF
  • 2x single bollard on swimplatform (smaller model), directly welded on swimplatform
  • flagpole support at bow and transom
  • anchor protection plate at bow
  • fender fairings
  • handrail rooftop
  • handrail transom (horizontal)
  • railing
    • 700mm above deck (mail 07-01-2013)
    • pipe 30x2 and 25x2 (metric)
  • mast
    • folding
    • TV antenna dome
  • swimladder (see drawing inbox)
  • boarding ladder side with 2/3 steps (see pictures)
  • nav lights
    • NO Lopo lights (mail 29-11-2012)
    • board lights - supports on lower coachroof
    • sternlight - integrate in bench?
    • anchorlight - find solution

aftdeck[edit]

  • sink
  • cooling box in helm seat
  • table - for mounting see detail dwg in inbox
  • bench
    • steel
    • no bottom
    • no draining of interior
    • plastic hatches (as gaslocker) - size to allow storage of cylindrical fender 200x650 (Cuno)

hatches and portlights[edit]

  • make Gebo
  • portlights fixed in cabins
  • portlights opening in bathrooms
  • deck hatches 500x500
  • transom hatch 900x600
  • companionway without window

sliding hatch[edit]

  • GRP
  • recessed
  • dimensions as 476
  • NOTE: 18-12-12 Jan accepted a proposal with Lexan sliding hatch

windows[edit]

  • supplier: Gebo, type Light Line (mail 22-11-12)
  • indicate wall thickness on drawing (steel + PVC)

windscreen[edit]

  • see remarks 'Ontwerp instructies SP-N40'
  • window wiper 3x, see mail 30-11-2012

60 Systems[edit]

general[edit]

  • all overboards - with valve
  • through hull - pipe steel lenght 50mm plus thread

fuel[edit]

  • all copper Ø8 (ME supply, ME return, heater)
  • ME: 1/4" connection to tank/manifold - 1/4" valve - compression fitting - copper tube - compression fitting - reinforced fuel hose - engine
  • NO no smell filter
  • breather pipe Ø25x2 st.st. in lower side of superstructure 'cheek' (not wing)

bilge[edit]

  • pump - Cuno 50880-1000
  • switch - Belship 032351
    • switch will activate only a buzzer at steering console
  • limber holes in all frames for water to drane in to the bilge sump
  • sump strainer Whale (supplier Belship)

exhaust[edit]

  • one side
  • hose minimum bending R200, confirmed by Jan
  • st.st. tube Ø100mm above DWL (check with CE)
  • waterlock Ø100mm Cuno (as Aventura 43)
  • breather (see pictures Aventura 43)
    • brass fitting with connection for shaft lubrication
    • breather line copper Ø8 connected to top of exhaust loop with socket st.st. 1/4"
    • hose 51?
    • transparant hose to see water level

cooling ME[edit]

  • short stand-pipe of about 50mm (so pipe interior can be painted with brush)

heating[edit]

  • 5x 2kW heat exchanger with st.st. grill:
    • 1x forecabin
    • 1x aftcabin
    • 1x dinette/double cabin
    • 2x salon
  • wet cabins - towel radiator
  • piping - Ø20mm - iFIT by Georg Fischer (full CAD library available on website) (for parts see mail 12-11-12)
    • when Webasto tap unit is used a short pipe of Ø25 iFIT is requiered

Webasto 90ST[edit]

  • Thermo 90S 12V Plug & heat - Webasto 77054700 - € 1.886,40 (2011-03) (project 476)
  • thermostat for 90ST / 24V -Webasto 25011C - € 39,88 (2011-03)
  • expansiontank with sideglass and dop - Webasto 79289500 - € 215,82 (2011-03)
  • exhaust thermo isolatie L=1850mm - Webasto 1313978A - € 63.00 (2011-03)
  • exhaust silencer 38mm RVS met steun - Webasto .14 - € 116.42 (2011-03)
  • exhaust clamp 42mm (9002255A) - Webasto 79643700 - € 5,63
  • NOTE: Webasto writes in their mail of 18-10-12 (our mail 12-11-12) that the radiators are not enough for the heater to dispense it's heat so they offer a blower of Isotherm, initially 1 but more might be required

Webasto DBW 2010[edit]

  • DBW 2010 12V CH - air heating - € 2.973,76 (2012-10 see offer in inbox)

Webasto DBW 2016[edit]

  • DBW 2016C 24V TAP, incl. 3391438A 20 ltr. buffertank isotemp - Webasto 3391826A - € 2,721.60 (2011-03)
  • expansion tank 8l 'Aquabox' - Webasto 149036 - € 44.85 (2011-03)
  • bracket for expansion tank - Webasto 3200627A - € 19.51 (2011-03)

ventilation[edit]

  • wet cabins - mushroom Vetus
  • Vetus Typhoon in bench aftdeck for permanent ventilation (Ontwerp instructies SP-N40)
  • Vetus Tom as on 483 (Ontwerp instructies SP-N40)

ventilation ER[edit]

  • ER - as Aventura 43 (Ontwerp instructies SP-N40)
  • NO blower (mail 7-11-2012)
  • grill as Aventura 43 (mail 7-11-2012)
  • ventilation hose Ø178 connected to MOFI100 and in ER side deck HIP Ø180 (hose is Ø170-190 and will be screwed down into steel through ribble)
  • ventilation hose short on one side, long on other side

fresh water[edit]

  • accumulator tank 8l (Cuno 337020)
  • bracket set (Cuno 337021)
  • pump Jabsco Max 4 (Cuno 3368) / Jabsco VSD Sensor Max 14
    • bracket set has provisions for mounting the pump so no separate pump foundation required!
  • boiler 40 lt Cuno 230V + engine connected (as Aventura 43)
  • sink on aftdeck
  • piping - Ø16mm - iFIT by Georg Fischer (full CAD library available on website)
  • toilets flush with sea water
  • breather nipple in topside under rope fender

waste water[edit]

  • galley drains directly overboard
  • no smell filter Belship (Whale) as 483

black water[edit]

  • issue - when tank is full the shit exits via breather or makes a pipe burst which drains the shit into the boat - how to avoid?
    • SH: when tanks is full the indicator should give a signal which stops the operation of the toilet flush button, together with an indicator (blinking light) on the flush panel
    • Sealand toilets come with above system
    • additionally a tank overflow will be installed which drains directly overboard
  • tank material - plastic
  • tank connections
    • toilet drains
    • deck suction
    • overflow
    • overboard (with Jabsco macerator pump type 18590 (Cuno 18590-2092)- will be mounted directly on tank with threaded 1 1/2 connection, so no separate foundation required!)
    • note: socket + elbow for pump line to be high enough for enabling screwing in of the pump
    • overflow + overboard connected on 1 through hull fitting + valve (under waterline)
    • all connections 2"
  • all piping - Ø50mm - PVC-C by Georg Fischer (full CAD library available on website)
  • breather in topside under rope fender

grey water[edit]

  • 1x grey waste tank 16 lt Whale (in foreship, from aftship will come via pipe into this box) with the following connections:
    • showers
    • wash basins
  • grey waste tank will drain directly overboard
  • wash basins - hose 38, optional with PVC-C 50

steering[edit]

  • wheel Stazo (mail 24-12-2012)


electrical[edit]

  • panels 12V / 230V as Aventura 43
  • 12V panel in aft cabin CL
  • 230V panel in furniture salon SB
  • second alternator on engine 12V / 150A
  • NO optional generator (mail 01-11-2012)
  • engine - comes with a relay box which must be mounted nearby
  • switches - Cuno
  • R25 at deck frame ends for cable penetration
  • wiper engine cables:
    • 12V socket mounted next to engine (HIP!)
    • all wiper engines directing in same directin so sockets are non-symmetrical (PS/SB)
    • cables through frames to steering console
  • cables from forecabin top are routed down inside double wall SB shower
    • nav lights
    • coax TV antenna
    • horn
  • cable loom steering console about Ø80mm
    • 2x engine control
    • 2x hydraulic hose/pipe
    • 12V cables

batteries[edit]

  • 2x foreship for thruster
  • 2x aftship for thruster

instruments + navigation[edit]

  • Raymarine Bi-data
  • navigation lights - no LED

ligthing[edit]

  • LED in salon, other spaces normal lamps (but interchangable with LED (Ontwerp instructies SP-N40)
  • switch - wall mounted (mail 02-Oct-12)

70 Interior[edit]

materials[edit]

LATEST - 19.02.2013

  • Bulwark and walls - 15mm plywood + 2x Oak veneer = draw 17mm thick / 04mm plywood + 1x Oak veneer = draw 05mm thick / 09mm plywood + 2x Oak veneer = draw 11mm thick
  • Furniture walls - 17mm plywood painted = draw 17mm thick / 04mm plywood painted = draw 05mm thick
  • Furniture interior - 15mm plywood + 2x HPL White = draw 17mm thick
  • Furniture corners - Oak solid wood profile
  • Furniture moldings - Oak solid wood profile
  • Lining - 11mm plywood painted = draw 11mm thick
  • Deckhouse - 10mm PVC white
  • Ceiling - something from WHITZAND - we don't make Nesting for it
  • Ceiling borders (curtains) - Oak solid wood profile
  • Cabin doors - preferred 30 mm PVC painted
  • Toilet and shower - 15 mm plywood +2x HPL White = draw 17mm thick
  • Head sole, galley top toilets top - Corian 12.3mm +2.7 mm glue = draw 15mm thick
  • Salon sole - Baryfloor 6-6-6 (total 18mm)+ 2x HPL = draw 20mm
  • Other cabins sole - 18mm birch + 2x HPL = draw 20mm


HISTORY

  • HPL (mail 03-10-2012, includes price offer)
  • tops - latest idea jan: Wilsonart 13mm (mail 11-28) - Wilsonart
  • sole
    • salon Baryfloor 6-6-6 (20kg/m2)
    • salon finish HPL teak and holly (1st) or PVC (2nd)
  • make several color proposals (renderings) based upon HPL (incl. non-wood)
  • hinges and closing devices as 483
  • superstructure sides iwo windows: PVC 10mm
  • Solid wood for corners and molds
  • Polyrey HPL (min. bend radius 300 mm)
  • 2x 07mm plywood + HPL for curved surfaces (e.g. bed in aft cabin)
  • 15mm base + 2x HPL for walls = 17mm (mail 06.12.2012)
  • salon sole - baryfloor 6-6-6 (total 18mm)+ 2x HPL = 20mm
  • other cabins sole - 18mm birch + 2x HPL = 20mm

sole[edit]

  • hatches where required for removing debris in bilge
  • hatches for access any hose clamp

basewood[edit]

  • deckhatches - include panel for mosquito screen (see mail 15-12-12)

upholstery[edit]

wet cabins[edit]

  • spraypainted
  • sole - Wilsonart
  • prefab unit, including systems?
  • toilet - seat height maximum 490mm (mail (26-11-2012)
  • cabin PS fore
    • try to create 600mm distance between wall and vanity (mail 01-12-2012)

salon[edit]

  • stairs - mounting as table aft deck (reinforcement in sole required?)
  • removable panel in aft wall for access instrument panel of steering console

appliances[edit]

  • NO hood above stove
  • toilet - SeaLand MasterFlush Electric by Waeco
  • wash basins - Alape glassed steel
  • TV lift - 230V see purchase list ?!? (Ontwerp instructies SP-N40)
  • optional
    • microwave (under sidedeck?)
  • toilets 2x Sealand 8600 series, short model
  • Wilson art sinks see down load section.

light plan[edit]

  • ceiling spot - under mast for access cables

80 Paint and insulation[edit]

  • insulation
    • hull - 40mm spray PU or rockwool
    • decks / superstructure - spray PU? (was Kingspan Thermaroof TR26)
    • ER - RG36 1000x1000x60
  • antifouling - up to DWL +100
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