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== General ==
 
== General ==
 
=== Contacts ===
 
=== Contacts ===
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*yard is [http://www.catfish.nl/ Gielissen Linskens]
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*yard [http://www.catfish.nl/ Gielissen Linskens] [https://www.facebook.com/GielissenLinskensShipyard Facebook]
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*yard project manager - Peter Linskens (does not master English)
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**T 0031 (0)478 531 935
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*yard labour preparation - Tim van Overbeeke
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**yard manager - Peter Linskens (does not master English)
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*interior labout preparation
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***+31 (0)6 53 86 83 79
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**Niels van der Rijt (Gielissen Neos, Helmond)  
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**yard project leader - Theo Bouman
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**+31 (0)492 53 15 31
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***+31 (0)6 13 57 76 78
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**Niels.van.der.Rijt@gielissen.nl
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***Theo.Bouwman@gielissen.nl
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*http://www.i-yacht.de/content/second.htm design company website
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**yard mechanic - Patrick de Bruijn (mail Werkplaats.Wanssum@Gielissen.NL)
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**interior labout preparation
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***Niels van der Rijt (Gielissen Neos, Helmond)  
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***+31 (0)492 53 15 38 (direct)
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***+31 (0)492 53 15 31 (office)
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***Niels.van.der.Rijt@gielissen.nl
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*designer [http://www.i-yacht.de iYacht]
 
**Udo  A.  Hafner
 
**Udo  A.  Hafner
 
**e-mail uh@i-yacht.de
 
**e-mail uh@i-yacht.de
 
**mobile phone +49.173.2421981
 
**mobile phone +49.173.2421981
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*first 3 boats are sold to [http://www.potsdam-yachtcharter.de Yachtcharter Potsdam]
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==== Suppliers ====
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*steel construction [http://desluisjachtbouw.nl/ de Sluis Jachtbouw] - will build 2 boats
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**T 0031 (0)514-560519
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*bending and forming [http://atop-jachtbouw.nl Atop Jachtbouw]
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*cutting [http://www.blomaak.nl/ Blom] (Ige Blom 0514 52 12 37)
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*exterior upholstert [http://www.coolen.nl Coolen]
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**contactperson is Mr. Pascal van Helvoort (owner), mobile +31 655 803 629
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*fasteners [http://www.cmd-fasteners.nl CMD fasteners]
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*painter [http://www.jachtschilders-alexbruintjes.nl Alex Bruintjes]
  
 
=== Classification ===
 
=== Classification ===
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==== Drawing list ====
 
==== Drawing list ====
  
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*11022-20-100-0 WIP midship section
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*20-100 midship section
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*11022-20-200-0 WIP tank arrangement
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*20-200 tank arrangement
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*11022-50-100-0 WIP general construction plan
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*40-100 general construction plan
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*11022-50-110-0 WIP detail construction plan
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*40-110 plate expansions
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*11022-50-200-0 WIP welding schedule
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*40-120 bending and forming
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*11022-60-100-0 WIP diagrams
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*40-130 subframe profile report
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*11022-70-100-0 WIP set up interior
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*40-140 subframe assembly drawing
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*40-150 fresh water tank
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*40-151 fresh water tank mounting
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*50-200 welding schedule
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*50-210 fender plan
 +
*50-220 stainless steel
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*50-230 plywood panels
 +
*50-240 waste water tank connections
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*60-110 diagram fuel
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*60-120 diagram fresh water
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*60-130 diagram waste water
 +
*60-140 diagram heating
 +
*70-100 set up interior
  
 
=== Time schedule ===
 
=== Time schedule ===
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*wk32 preliminary approval
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*wk 1 - plate estimation
 +
*wk 3 - cutting of steel
 
*planning Linskens:
 
*planning Linskens:
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**half januar 2012 delivery first boat
 
 
**1 month for building in systems + interior
 
**1 month for building in systems + interior
 
**1 month for hull construction
 
**1 month for hull construction
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**start hull construction half october
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 +
=== Visualisation ===
 +
*printer A3 format
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*DEF format
 +
 
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== Issues ==
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 +
*steering cylinder
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**chosen model is the same as used on Helmers sloop RT-S600
 +
**blinded by Vetus calculator
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**results CFD neglected
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**Vetus comments?
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**Vetus contactperson?
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*frame for starterbatteries bends very easy - solve with strip brackets
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*heating - exhaust route to close to fuel tank
 +
*heating - batteries must be removed in order to connect the exhaust hose to the skinfitting
 +
*heating - intake silencer - not enough length available (stairs is not excecuted conform our info)
  
 
== Questions==
 
== Questions==
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=== General ===
 
=== General ===
  
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=== Construction ===
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=== 40 Construction ===
  
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*portholes - ''cut-out drawing will be provided by yard''
 
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*Do we put a flat plate under the forecabin escape hatch? ''NO''
 
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*Do we make hatch in swim platform for removing the stern thruster? ''NO''
 
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*Curved part with bending on the edge of the roof? ''YES''
 
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*F23 forepeak bhd - hole without steel hatch? ''YES''
 
  
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=== Systems ===
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=== 50 Outfitting ===
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*tank connections height
 
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*Will the discharge of wastewater overboard be made using a pump or a simple gravity discharge ? ''gravity discharge is not possible because tank is partially below waterline''
 
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*We need 2 drain units(instead of 1, mentioned in purchase list) from Exalto; Allowed ? ''YES''
 
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* For fuel tanks supply (PS and SB) we need: 1 Splash-Stop [http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/dde28f6a#/dde28f6a/80 Vetus FS5125], 1 Deck entry [http://www.osculati.com/cat/Scheda.aspx?id=1666 Osculati 20.667.03] and 1 No smell [http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/dde28f6a#/dde28f6a/82 Vetus NSF25D] ''Fuel fill only on one side''
 
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*Do we need to make manual control override for the rudder? - ''NO, just a square head at rudder shaft''
 
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*Deck fills like in catfish 1 or without the cover ''Deckfills in sidedecks, fresh water on one side, fuel on the other side, respect distance between deckfills conform CE''
 
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*bow thruster greasing reservoir position(needs to bee DWL+500)
 
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*as rudder arm, has been chosen [http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/dde28f6a#/dde28f6a/184 Vetus HELM40]
 
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* because the connection kit for diesel fuel tanks chosen (Vetus FTKITB) has filling connection Ø50mm, ventilation Ø16mm, supply line Ø10mm and return line Ø10mm, it needs to replace a few products. In this case, instead of the old ones, we will need:
 
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**breather [http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/dde28f6a#/dde28f6a/184 Vetus AB16B]
 
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**Splash-Stop [http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/dde28f6a#/dde28f6a/184 Vetus FS5116]
 
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**No-Smell [http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/dde28f6a#/dde28f6a/184 Vetus NSF16D]
 
  
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==== Electrical ====
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=== 60 Systems ===
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*Do we habe battery boxes? ''NO, battery rack of L50x50
 
  
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=== Insulation ===
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=== 70 Interior ===
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*insulation is 80mm wool
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*engine room access - to be considered ''Wat betreft motorluik kan ik zo niet goed beoordelen. Ben deze week niet op kantoor om tekeningen te beoordelen. Is de ruimte krap of niet toegangkelijk? Kom hier anders volgende week op terug.''
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*ER insulation is 30mm from Merford
 
  
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=== Interior ===
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=== 80 Insulation ===
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*Do we have a hatch above the engine in the plywood sole? ''Wat betreft motorluik kan ik zo niet goed beoordelen. Ben deze week niet op kantoor om tekeningen te beoordelen. Is de ruimte krap of niet toegangkelijk? Kom hier anders volgende week op terug.''
 
  
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=== Paint and Varnish ===
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=== 90 Paint and Varnish ===
  
 
== To do ==
 
== To do ==
  
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==== Naval Architecture ====
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=== Issues ===
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*system assemblies: how to show systems for different lay out versions?
 +
*sound closure engineroom
 +
 
 +
=== General ===
 +
 
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==== Organise ====
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*3D model layer control (incl. SC)
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*3D model Xref
 +
*define clearly what is interior / system / outfitting (for example, toilet is interior appliance but solenoid valve is system)
 +
*part catalogue (PDF with supplier info of each part for systems?
 +
*system matrix - create purchase list by means of filtering
  
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==== Construction ====
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==== 20 Naval Architecture ====
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===== General construction plan =====
 
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*all hatches: indicate brand + type and cutout dimensions
 
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*indicate gaslocker cutout
 
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*scuppers - add scupperpipe in aft of sidedeck
 
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*air intakes ER - specify type (and update sideview in 'shell thickness'
 
  
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==== Systems ====
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==== 30 3D models ====
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*gas line
 
  
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==== Interior ====
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=====11022-30-100 solid model.dwf=====
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*
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*update bow thruster tube
  
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==== 40 Construction ====
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===== 40-100 general construction plan =====
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*done rev E - add angles to thrustersengines
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*done rev E - move FW tank 20mm forward (coincides with structure)
 +
*update steering cylinder
 +
*canceled - rudder - hard to watertight weld shaft to top plate because of obstruction by shaft flange - integrate flange into rudder or lower rudder top (remark of Taeke / de Sluis but withdrawn using visit to yard in October)
  
 +
===== 40-105 shell penetrations =====
 +
*add additional holes as mentioned for building kit
 +
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===== 40-110 plate expansions =====
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===== 40-120 bending and forming =====
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*U1-CAB-18P - update template names
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*gas locker top is mirrored in nest - swop bending texts
 +
*transom stairs - step ST-01 - change bending into OR mirror plate in nest (first option is preferred)
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*transom stairs - step ST-02 - change bending into OR mirror plate in nest (first option is preferred)
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*transom stairs - step ST-03 - change bending into OR mirror plate in nest (first option is preferred)
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*transom stairs - step ST-04 - change bending into OR mirror plate in nest (first option is preferred)
 +
*transom 01P - swop bending info?
 +
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===== 40-140 subframe assembly drawing =====
 +
 +
===== 40-151 fresh water tank mounting =====
 +
*done rev A - move tank 20mm forward (tank coincides with structure)
 +
 +
===== 40-210 fender plan =====
 +
 +
===== Building kit =====
 +
*windlass foundation - cut flange under deck?
 +
*rudder - add emergency tiller
 +
*keel - is not watertight because lower side of shaft tube inner bearing cannot be reached for welding, possible solution is to make a bended part of the recessbottom together with a plate against the frame which tehy can weld in advance at the shaft tube and then to be welded into the boat
 +
*topside - raise exhaust penetration 100mm
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*topside - align ER air grill with fender?
 +
*rudder foundation - add bracket under SB rudder pin (see pictures)
 +
*standpipe strainer - add bracket to frame (see pictures)
 +
*mast base - make horizontal insert in deck?
 +
*bulwark - widen HIP for anchor with 10mm each side
 +
*superstructure steering position - increase HIP in top and bulkhead, see gen. constr. plan
 +
*superstructure top - holes for ventilators are never cut? Yard: do they have to be cut?
 +
*superstructure side - add hole Ø80 PS for shower ventilator
 +
*superstructure wings - add holes for speakers (see WIP plate expansions)
 +
*salon roof / entrance - horizontal insert plate
 +
*deck glue strip - extend for guiding pins
 +
*deck - cut holes for guiding pins
 +
*F07+76 - narrow entrance cutout with 20mm on outboard side
 +
*windscreen base - add limberhole iwo horizontal insert plate for entrance
 +
*move gaslocker drain 300mm aft
 +
*deck glue strip - add (sleeve-)holes for bolting the deck?! (Ø15, stud M8?)
 +
*F05 - modify upper part conform constr. dwg
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*anodes - mark bolts, see gen. constr. dwg
 +
*shower foreship - Patrick mentioned something about the scupper intersecting the construction, I asked him to send pictures but I never received (SH)
 +
*deck fills - HIP Ø53?
 +
*U1-CAB-18P+S - update template names
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*F07+76 - add hole for shaft lubrication hose?
 +
*F07+76 - add hole Ø100 for technique lines (see mail 26-03)
 +
*F12 - add hole Ø100 for technique lines (see mail 26-03)
 +
*F12 - add hole in bhd so shaft can be entered in shafttube from inside (then rudder does not need to be removed)(see mail 26-03)
 +
*skinfittings - change HIP for plastic models (see system matrix)
 +
*F23 - add hole for cables
 +
*engine girders - add threaded holes for engine mounts
 +
*transom stairs - add hole Ø25 in center of every riser
 +
*fuel tanks - mark at outside
 +
*drains SB aft - swop skinfitting of drain unit with skinfitting of wash basin
 +
*gas locker top is mirrored in nest - swop bending texts
 +
*shell 04C - split bended corners
 +
*shell - thrusters only marking
 +
*fuel tank PS - add hole sensor
 +
*fuel tank SB - add hole fuel supply
 +
 +
''Done''
 +
*F23 - lower horizontal strip for subframe with 3mm for glue
 +
*replace all FB 80x8 by FB 60x8
 +
*rename all DECK planar groups (measure from baseline, NOT from waterline)
 +
*chainlocker drain - deck cutout does not match pipe, change pipe run for clearance with subframe
 +
*add finish to ALL parts
 +
*check bending side for ALL parts
 +
*windows superstructure front - split in different way
 +
*tanks - split in a different way
 +
*subframe bolting plates - make correct size
 +
*thruster fairing - bending info missing
 +
*fuel tanks - mark baffle plates
 +
*fuel tank PS - baffle plates - add scallop in upper corner
 +
*fuel tanks - lug for airvents: change from 1/2" into 3/4"
 +
*fuel tanks - change fill lug into 1 1/2? (same as on watertank)
 +
*fuel tanks - change return lug from G3/4 into G1/2
 +
*fuel tanks - add return lug G1/2 for optional generator in PS tank (position as SB but mirrored)
 +
*fuel tanks - move return sockets aft?
 +
*fuel tanks manholes - add bolts + copper washer under bolthead + section with rubber detail
 +
*shell - mark fender tubes
 +
*ER air - move aft with 60mm
 +
*gaslocker/transom - update bending side and angle
 +
*shell topside - modify cutout for skinfitting gaslocker (Ø27)+ bilge (Ø33)
 +
*shell topside - part 02+04 change thickness text into -5-
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*rudder indicator - make bracket part
 +
*CAB-01-C - split at bended corners (change into 3 parts, split at bending line +30, no overlength), update bending drawing
 +
*CAB-05-C - split at bended corners (change into 3 parts, split at bending line +30, no overlength), update bending drawing
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*F02 + F03 + F04 - split at CL (yard cannot make flanges at this lenght), update bending drawing
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*F02 + F03 + F04 - reduce radius in way of sole to create bigger tolerance (see F01)
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*steeringtable - reduce length
 +
*thruster bearing plate - mark on engine girders, show in CL section
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*shell topsides - mark gluing strip
 +
*glue strip PS aft - bollard box extension is missing (SB is correct)
 +
*flange of windlass base - shorten lower edge with 10mm
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*shell bottom - add hole at PS for bidata
 +
*shell bottom - add holes for deck drain pipes
 +
*shell topsides - add additional skinfittings for waste water
 +
*parts A are nowhere indicated in construction drawings
 +
*parts B are to be canceled
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*subframe - starter batterie support - add strip bracket fore and aft
 +
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==== Nest ====
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==== 50 Outfitting ====
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*11022-50-220-A stainless steel - modify forward railing?
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==== 60 Systems ====
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===== System matrix =====
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*replace inox skinfittings with plastic skinfittings with inox cover (Osculati) - update shell penetrations?
 +
*single aft cabin - add hot water to washbasin in bathroom PS
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*heating - add sleeve for mounting intake hose in sole (inside stairs), part 9009240B?
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*heating - add 1 white grill for air intake
 +
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===== Assemblies =====
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*heating - exhaust is mounted to air intake right now, modify
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*heating - air intake in second riser from forward stairs
 +
*heating - pos.39 must become a regular T piece with hose to normal grill
 +
*drains SB aft - swop skinfitting of drain unit with skinfitting of wash basin
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*single aft cabin - add hot water to washbasin PS
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==== 70 Interior ====
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==== 80 Insulation ====
  
 
=== Options ===
 
=== Options ===
 
*our delivery must be prepared for the following options:
 
*our delivery must be prepared for the following options:
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**bench at aftdeck ''- ignore''
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**2 additional batteries of 165 Ah
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**table at aftdeck ''- ignore''
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**bowthruster 105 kgf
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**cabrio hood ''- ignore''
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**sternthruster 105 kgf
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**'''2 additional batteries of 165 Ah'''
 
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**bowthruster 105 kgf ''- done''
 
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**sternthruster 105 kgf ''- done''
 
 
**Webasto air heating
 
**Webasto air heating
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**'''deckwash at swimplatform (fresh water)'''
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**deckwash at swimplatform (fresh water)
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**LED lighting in stairs ''- ignore''
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**combimicrowave with grill
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**'''electric windlass'''  ''- ?''
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**hood
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**combimicrowave with grill ''- done''
 
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**hood ''- done''
 
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**'''radio/cd player with 4 speakers ( 2 interior and 2 exterior)'''
 
  
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== Naval architecture ==
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== 20 Naval architecture ==
  
 
=== Tank arrangement ===
 
=== Tank arrangement ===
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*fresh water tank NOT under beds
 
*fresh water tank NOT under beds
  
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=== Propulsion ===
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== 30 Propulsion ==
 
*maximum speed 17kmh
 
*maximum speed 17kmh
 
*standard engine is Vetus DT44 - 140hp
 
*standard engine is Vetus DT44 - 140hp
 
*optional engine is Vetus DT66 - 170hp
 
*optional engine is Vetus DT66 - 170hp
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*gearbox
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**DT44 - ZF45 reduction 2.2:1
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**DT66 - ZF45 reduction 1.51/2.03:1
 
*stern tube - Exalto weld-in type 22.2, OD Ø95 (HIP Ø100) with 3 doubling tubes which can be ignored for building kit
 
*stern tube - Exalto weld-in type 22.2, OD Ø95 (HIP Ø100) with 3 doubling tubes which can be ignored for building kit
  
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== Construction ==
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== 40 Construction ==
 
*as simple as possible in order to reduce costs of material and manhours
 
*as simple as possible in order to reduce costs of material and manhours
 
*use bending parts as much as possible: reduced manhours for welding and painting
 
*use bending parts as much as possible: reduced manhours for welding and painting
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*engine room - not in steel
 
*engine room - not in steel
 
*steering console - GRP part
 
*steering console - GRP part
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*escape hatch foredeck - no horizontal base required
 +
*stern thruster - no hatch in swimplatform required for inspection/removal
 +
*salon roof - side is a straight bending part, max. length 2000mm, after bending the part it is forced into the desired longitudinal curvature
 +
*forepeak bhd - access hole chainlocker without steel hatch
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=== Subframe ===
 
=== Subframe ===
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*mounting of interior + systems into hull
 
*mounting of interior + systems into hull
  
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== Outfitting ==
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=== Surface model ===
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*no extended swimplatfrom
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*radius required at corner side/swimplatform to accommodate D-profile (fillet between side and transom, extends to the bottom)
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*foredeck - no hatches
 +
*bulwark - single plate, continue over bow when doubts about strength
 +
*bollard boxes - extend to deck
 +
*hull to be faired where neccessary
 +
*aftdeck surface - no cut out for bench
 +
 
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=== Building kit ===
 +
*windows - mark, cut or cut with bridges, up to us
 +
*portholes - partially cut
 +
*hatches - partially cut
 +
*salon entry - cut
 +
*thrusters - partially cut in shell
 +
 
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 +
====== NOT in building kit ======
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*foundation optional generator
 +
*generator exhaust foundations
 +
*generator waterseparator overboard
 +
*generator exhaust shell penetration
 +
*generator start batterie frame
 +
*frame for optional service batteries
 +
*exhaust optional heater
 +
*exhaust shell penetration optional generator
 +
 
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==== Lifting plan ====
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*crane
 +
**longitudinal distance between hooks is 5300
 +
**transverse distance between hooks is 5000
 +
**total lifting height of yard crane is 5800
 +
 
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== 50 Outfitting ==
  
 
*windscreen - coaming as Catfish1
 
*windscreen - coaming as Catfish1
 +
 +
=== Window wipers ===
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*will be mounted in the windscreen glass
  
 
=== Sole supports ===
 
=== Sole supports ===
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*salon entry - custom purchase part Boomsma
 
*salon entry - custom purchase part Boomsma
  
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== Insulation ==
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=== Groundtackle ===
 +
*bowrollers at bow
 +
*standard is a Muir manual operated windlass with separate chain pipe
 +
*optional is a Lewmar electrical operated windlass with integrated chain pipe
 +
 
 +
=== Bollards ===
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*screwed on
 +
 
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=== Thrusters ===
 +
*bow thruster greasing reservoir position(needs to bee DWL+500)
 +
 
 +
=== Rudder installation ===
 +
*manual override by means of square head at rudder shaft
 +
*rudder arm [http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/dde28f6a#/dde28f6a/184 Vetus HELM40]
 +
 
 +
=== Deck fills ===
 +
*deck fills - in side decks, fresh water on one side, fuel on the other side (''respect distance between deckfills conform CE'')
 +
 
 +
=== Deck drains ===
 +
*tube OD 60.3x2.9 R76 (at CL)
 +
 
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=== Engine room ventilation ===
 +
*grill - Vetus Air suction vent type ASV/SSV/SSVL size 80 - HIP 640x139 (free flow area 0.0321m2)
 +
*dorade box - plywood
 +
 
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=== Shaft installation ===
 +
*water lubrication - closed system (water taken from water injection of engine exhaust)
 +
 
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=== Cabrio hood and bimini ===
 +
*min headroom 1900mm (if possible 2000mm)
 +
*frame - bending radius 75mm (center of pipe)
 +
*supplier for frame fittings: [http://www.trisco.nl Trisco]
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== 60 Systems ==
  
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== Systems ==
 
 
*standard engine is Vetus DT 44
 
*standard engine is Vetus DT 44
 
*optional engine is Vetus DT 66
 
*optional engine is Vetus DT 66
 
*see Excel sheet 'catfish techniek'
 
*see Excel sheet 'catfish techniek'
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*electric switch panel 230V/24V [http://www.busch-jaeger.de Busch-Jaeger]
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*electric switch panel 230V/24V [http://www.busch-jaeger.de Busch-Jaeger] - ''not in our scope''
 
*optional heating (air) will be implemented in kit
 
*optional heating (air) will be implemented in kit
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 +
=== Bilge ===
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*overboard in side, above WL
 +
*pump Rule 1100/24V (instead of Rule 1500 as in yard listing)
 +
**capacity 70 l/min.
 +
**pump Ø60.3
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**hose Ø28
  
 
=== Exhaust system ===
 
=== Exhaust system ===
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*gooseneck - tube, welded in hull on PS or SB
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===== Main engine =====
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*waterlock - see [http://www.exalto.com/products.php?id=148235 Exalto waterlocks] - Vetus MP90 is canceled
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*engine DT 44 - Ø90 PS
 +
**st.st. elbows 90x2.0xR114.5 (Exalto 560090)
 +
**minimum bending radius for exhaust hose Ø90 DG rubber is 90mm (Vetus is 135mm)
 +
*engine DT 66 - Ø125 PS - not in delivery
 +
*waterlock - Exalto GRP waterlock vertical, dimensions for Ø90 and Ø125 are the same
 +
*muffler Vetus MP90 - '''canceled'''
 +
*gooseneck - steel tube welded in hull, penetration in way of engineroom
 +
 
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===== Generator =====
 +
*generator Onan - Ø ?
  
 
=== Bow and stern thrusters ===
 
=== Bow and stern thrusters ===
 
*tube Ø250 standard in boat, thrusters are optional
 
*tube Ø250 standard in boat, thrusters are optional
  
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== Interior ==
+
=== Cooling ===
 +
*engine connections
 +
**DT 44 -
 +
**DT 66 -
 +
 
 +
=== Fuel ===
 +
*tanks - to have drain
 +
*tanks - manhole on top, simple bolted plate
 +
*tank ventilation - each tank an air vent + no smell filter
 +
*steel elbows supplier http://www.vanleeuwen.com/en/products?groupid=593
 +
 
 +
=== Fresh water ===
 +
 
 +
*fresh water tank custom made by [http://www.plastipro.nl Plastipro]
 +
**construction is corner to corner
 +
**wall thickness is 10mm
 +
**they weld sockets with female thread
 +
**they can make suction pipe
 +
**they can make mounting brackets
 +
**for deckplates see [http://www.armstrongnautical.com/deckplates.htm Armstrong]
 +
*[http://www.rotterdamplastics.nl/winkel/watertanks/kleine-tanks/p-1b/5-NA-4--5-liter-tank.html expansion tank 5 liter]
 +
*fresh water deck wash is on PS
 +
 
 +
=== Waste water ===
 +
*shower drain - skinfitting with hose Ø25
 +
*collection boxes - 2 units are required instead of 1 as mentioned in yard purchase list
 +
*NO direct overboard in system
 +
*toilets
 +
**breathers with plastic skinfitting - hole drilled by yard (not in building kit)
 +
*tank Vetus BTANK215 has a dop Ø62 in the top at 115mm from the front and 630mm from the right side
 +
 
 +
=== HVAC ===
 +
==== Heating ====
 +
*supply air (circulation):
 +
**salon 1x Ø80mm fixed
 +
*exhaust grills:
 +
**2 aft cabins: 1x Ø70mm closing '''OR''' 1 aft cabin: 2x Ø70mm closing
 +
**4 bathrooms: 1x Ø70mm closing
 +
**salon: 2x Ø70mm closing
 +
**galley: 1x Ø80mm fixed in bench and 1x Ø80mm closing in galley cabinet
 +
**fore cabin: 1x Ø70mm closing
 +
 
 +
=== Electric ===
 +
*boardsystem is 24V
 +
*starter batteries
 +
**ME DT 44 - 2x 108Ah (12V)
 +
**ME DT 66 - min. 2x 66Ah - max. 2x 110Ah (24V?)
 +
*service batteries - 4x 165Ah
 +
*optional service batteries - 4x 165Ah
 +
*NO battery boxes
 +
*navigation lights
 +
**Osculati 'Classic 12' series (see mail 17-01-2012)
 +
 
 +
== 70 Interior ==
  
 
=== Joinery entry ===
 
=== Joinery entry ===
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=== Lay out ===
 
=== Lay out ===
 +
===== Lay out variations =====
 +
*owners version: aft cabin with double bed, separate toilet with sink on PS and large shower on SB
 +
*rental version: double aft cabin with 2x 2 single beds, each with enclosed bathroom with toilet and shower
  
 
=== Hardware and fittings ===
 
=== Hardware and fittings ===
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*[http://www.badpunt.nl/fontein-minoe.html Bathrooms]
 
*[http://www.badpunt.nl/fontein-minoe.html Bathrooms]
  
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== Surface model ==
+
== 80 Insulation ==
−
*no extended swimplatfrom
+
*thermal - 80mm Rockwool
−
*radius required at corner side/swimplatform to accommodate D-profile (fillet between side and transom, extends to the bottom)
+
*ER sound - 30mm from Merford
−
*foredeck - no hatches
 
−
*bulwark - single plate, continue over bow when doubts about strength
 
−
*bollard boxes - extend to deck
 
−
*hull to be faired where neccessary
 
−
*aftdeck surface - no cut out for bench
 
−
 
 
−
== Building kit ==
 
−
*windows - mark, cut or cut with bridges, up to us
 
−
*portholes - partially cut
 
−
*hatches - partially cut
 
−
*salon entry - cut
 
−
*thrusters - partially cut in shell
 
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[[Category: Projects]]

Latest revision as of 10:43, 5 March 2013

Contents

General[edit]

Contacts[edit]

  • yard Gielissen Linskens Facebook
    • T 0031 (0)478 531 935
    • yard manager - Peter Linskens (does not master English)
      • +31 (0)6 53 86 83 79
    • yard project leader - Theo Bouman
      • +31 (0)6 13 57 76 78
      • Theo.Bouwman@gielissen.nl
    • yard mechanic - Patrick de Bruijn (mail Werkplaats.Wanssum@Gielissen.NL)
    • interior labout preparation
      • Niels van der Rijt (Gielissen Neos, Helmond)
      • +31 (0)492 53 15 38 (direct)
      • +31 (0)492 53 15 31 (office)
      • Niels.van.der.Rijt@gielissen.nl
  • designer iYacht
    • Udo A. Hafner
    • e-mail uh@i-yacht.de
    • mobile phone +49.173.2421981
  • first 3 boats are sold to Yachtcharter Potsdam

Suppliers[edit]

Classification[edit]

  • CE-C
  • certification DMI tel +31 597 671 000
    • contactperson Albert de Roos tel +31 61 58 75 825
    • info@dutchmarineinspection.nl

Scope[edit]

  • hydrostatics
  • general construction plan
  • construction building kit without
    • bench aftdeck
    • mast
  • systems
  • interior building kit:
    • expansions
    • no hardware list
    • no edging

Drawing list[edit]

  • 20-100 midship section
  • 20-200 tank arrangement
  • 40-100 general construction plan
  • 40-110 plate expansions
  • 40-120 bending and forming
  • 40-130 subframe profile report
  • 40-140 subframe assembly drawing
  • 40-150 fresh water tank
  • 40-151 fresh water tank mounting
  • 50-200 welding schedule
  • 50-210 fender plan
  • 50-220 stainless steel
  • 50-230 plywood panels
  • 50-240 waste water tank connections
  • 60-110 diagram fuel
  • 60-120 diagram fresh water
  • 60-130 diagram waste water
  • 60-140 diagram heating
  • 70-100 set up interior

Time schedule[edit]

  • wk 1 - plate estimation
  • wk 3 - cutting of steel
  • planning Linskens:
    • 1 month for building in systems + interior
    • 1 month for hull construction

Visualisation[edit]

  • printer A3 format
  • DEF format

Issues[edit]

  • steering cylinder
    • chosen model is the same as used on Helmers sloop RT-S600
    • blinded by Vetus calculator
    • results CFD neglected
    • Vetus comments?
    • Vetus contactperson?
  • frame for starterbatteries bends very easy - solve with strip brackets
  • heating - exhaust route to close to fuel tank
  • heating - batteries must be removed in order to connect the exhaust hose to the skinfitting
  • heating - intake silencer - not enough length available (stairs is not excecuted conform our info)

Questions[edit]

General[edit]

40 Construction[edit]

50 Outfitting[edit]

60 Systems[edit]

70 Interior[edit]

  • engine room access - to be considered Wat betreft motorluik kan ik zo niet goed beoordelen. Ben deze week niet op kantoor om tekeningen te beoordelen. Is de ruimte krap of niet toegangkelijk? Kom hier anders volgende week op terug.

80 Insulation[edit]

90 Paint and Varnish[edit]

To do[edit]

Issues[edit]

  • system assemblies: how to show systems for different lay out versions?
  • sound closure engineroom

General[edit]

Organise[edit]

  • 3D model layer control (incl. SC)
  • 3D model Xref
  • define clearly what is interior / system / outfitting (for example, toilet is interior appliance but solenoid valve is system)
  • part catalogue (PDF with supplier info of each part for systems?
  • system matrix - create purchase list by means of filtering

20 Naval Architecture[edit]

30 3D models[edit]

11022-30-100 solid model.dwf[edit]
  • update bow thruster tube

40 Construction[edit]

40-100 general construction plan[edit]
  • done rev E - add angles to thrustersengines
  • done rev E - move FW tank 20mm forward (coincides with structure)
  • update steering cylinder
  • canceled - rudder - hard to watertight weld shaft to top plate because of obstruction by shaft flange - integrate flange into rudder or lower rudder top (remark of Taeke / de Sluis but withdrawn using visit to yard in October)
40-105 shell penetrations[edit]
  • add additional holes as mentioned for building kit
40-110 plate expansions[edit]
40-120 bending and forming[edit]
  • U1-CAB-18P - update template names
  • gas locker top is mirrored in nest - swop bending texts
  • transom stairs - step ST-01 - change bending into OR mirror plate in nest (first option is preferred)
  • transom stairs - step ST-02 - change bending into OR mirror plate in nest (first option is preferred)
  • transom stairs - step ST-03 - change bending into OR mirror plate in nest (first option is preferred)
  • transom stairs - step ST-04 - change bending into OR mirror plate in nest (first option is preferred)
  • transom 01P - swop bending info?
40-140 subframe assembly drawing[edit]
40-151 fresh water tank mounting[edit]
  • done rev A - move tank 20mm forward (tank coincides with structure)
40-210 fender plan[edit]
Building kit[edit]
  • windlass foundation - cut flange under deck?
  • rudder - add emergency tiller
  • keel - is not watertight because lower side of shaft tube inner bearing cannot be reached for welding, possible solution is to make a bended part of the recessbottom together with a plate against the frame which tehy can weld in advance at the shaft tube and then to be welded into the boat
  • topside - raise exhaust penetration 100mm
  • topside - align ER air grill with fender?
  • rudder foundation - add bracket under SB rudder pin (see pictures)
  • standpipe strainer - add bracket to frame (see pictures)
  • mast base - make horizontal insert in deck?
  • bulwark - widen HIP for anchor with 10mm each side
  • superstructure steering position - increase HIP in top and bulkhead, see gen. constr. plan
  • superstructure top - holes for ventilators are never cut? Yard: do they have to be cut?
  • superstructure side - add hole Ø80 PS for shower ventilator
  • superstructure wings - add holes for speakers (see WIP plate expansions)
  • salon roof / entrance - horizontal insert plate
  • deck glue strip - extend for guiding pins
  • deck - cut holes for guiding pins
  • F07+76 - narrow entrance cutout with 20mm on outboard side
  • windscreen base - add limberhole iwo horizontal insert plate for entrance
  • move gaslocker drain 300mm aft
  • deck glue strip - add (sleeve-)holes for bolting the deck?! (Ø15, stud M8?)
  • F05 - modify upper part conform constr. dwg
  • anodes - mark bolts, see gen. constr. dwg
  • shower foreship - Patrick mentioned something about the scupper intersecting the construction, I asked him to send pictures but I never received (SH)
  • deck fills - HIP Ø53?
  • U1-CAB-18P+S - update template names
  • F07+76 - add hole for shaft lubrication hose?
  • F07+76 - add hole Ø100 for technique lines (see mail 26-03)
  • F12 - add hole Ø100 for technique lines (see mail 26-03)
  • F12 - add hole in bhd so shaft can be entered in shafttube from inside (then rudder does not need to be removed)(see mail 26-03)
  • skinfittings - change HIP for plastic models (see system matrix)
  • F23 - add hole for cables
  • engine girders - add threaded holes for engine mounts
  • transom stairs - add hole Ø25 in center of every riser
  • fuel tanks - mark at outside
  • drains SB aft - swop skinfitting of drain unit with skinfitting of wash basin
  • gas locker top is mirrored in nest - swop bending texts
  • shell 04C - split bended corners
  • shell - thrusters only marking
  • fuel tank PS - add hole sensor
  • fuel tank SB - add hole fuel supply

Done

  • F23 - lower horizontal strip for subframe with 3mm for glue
  • replace all FB 80x8 by FB 60x8
  • rename all DECK planar groups (measure from baseline, NOT from waterline)
  • chainlocker drain - deck cutout does not match pipe, change pipe run for clearance with subframe
  • add finish to ALL parts
  • check bending side for ALL parts
  • windows superstructure front - split in different way
  • tanks - split in a different way
  • subframe bolting plates - make correct size
  • thruster fairing - bending info missing
  • fuel tanks - mark baffle plates
  • fuel tank PS - baffle plates - add scallop in upper corner
  • fuel tanks - lug for airvents: change from 1/2" into 3/4"
  • fuel tanks - change fill lug into 1 1/2? (same as on watertank)
  • fuel tanks - change return lug from G3/4 into G1/2
  • fuel tanks - add return lug G1/2 for optional generator in PS tank (position as SB but mirrored)
  • fuel tanks - move return sockets aft?
  • fuel tanks manholes - add bolts + copper washer under bolthead + section with rubber detail
  • shell - mark fender tubes
  • ER air - move aft with 60mm
  • gaslocker/transom - update bending side and angle
  • shell topside - modify cutout for skinfitting gaslocker (Ø27)+ bilge (Ø33)
  • shell topside - part 02+04 change thickness text into -5-
  • rudder indicator - make bracket part
  • CAB-01-C - split at bended corners (change into 3 parts, split at bending line +30, no overlength), update bending drawing
  • CAB-05-C - split at bended corners (change into 3 parts, split at bending line +30, no overlength), update bending drawing
  • F02 + F03 + F04 - split at CL (yard cannot make flanges at this lenght), update bending drawing
  • F02 + F03 + F04 - reduce radius in way of sole to create bigger tolerance (see F01)
  • steeringtable - reduce length
  • thruster bearing plate - mark on engine girders, show in CL section
  • shell topsides - mark gluing strip
  • glue strip PS aft - bollard box extension is missing (SB is correct)
  • flange of windlass base - shorten lower edge with 10mm
  • shell bottom - add hole at PS for bidata
  • shell bottom - add holes for deck drain pipes
  • shell topsides - add additional skinfittings for waste water
  • parts A are nowhere indicated in construction drawings
  • parts B are to be canceled
  • subframe - starter batterie support - add strip bracket fore and aft

Nest[edit]

50 Outfitting[edit]

  • 11022-50-220-A stainless steel - modify forward railing?

60 Systems[edit]

System matrix[edit]
  • replace inox skinfittings with plastic skinfittings with inox cover (Osculati) - update shell penetrations?
  • single aft cabin - add hot water to washbasin in bathroom PS
  • heating - add sleeve for mounting intake hose in sole (inside stairs), part 9009240B?
  • heating - add 1 white grill for air intake
Assemblies[edit]
  • heating - exhaust is mounted to air intake right now, modify
  • heating - air intake in second riser from forward stairs
  • heating - pos.39 must become a regular T piece with hose to normal grill
  • drains SB aft - swop skinfitting of drain unit with skinfitting of wash basin
  • single aft cabin - add hot water to washbasin PS

70 Interior[edit]

80 Insulation[edit]

Options[edit]

  • our delivery must be prepared for the following options:
    • 2 additional batteries of 165 Ah
    • bowthruster 105 kgf
    • sternthruster 105 kgf
    • Webasto air heating
    • deckwash at swimplatform (fresh water)
    • combimicrowave with grill
    • hood

20 Naval architecture[edit]

Tank arrangement[edit]

  • tanks at CL
  • waste water 215l - Vetus BTANK215
  • fresh water 450l - Vetus or custom made
  • fuel 800l - Vetus or custom made
  • waste water tank in 'engine room'
  • fresh water tank NOT in 'engine room'
  • fresh water tank NOT under beds

30 Propulsion[edit]

  • maximum speed 17kmh
  • standard engine is Vetus DT44 - 140hp
  • optional engine is Vetus DT66 - 170hp
  • gearbox
    • DT44 - ZF45 reduction 2.2:1
    • DT66 - ZF45 reduction 1.51/2.03:1
  • stern tube - Exalto weld-in type 22.2, OD Ø95 (HIP Ø100) with 3 doubling tubes which can be ignored for building kit

40 Construction[edit]

  • as simple as possible in order to reduce costs of material and manhours
  • use bending parts as much as possible: reduced manhours for welding and painting
  • railing aftdeck - mounted on L80x40, flange up and outward, ends in line with aftcabin contour, ends closed with plates (this will be painted in contrasting colour) - see sketch 1
  • rubrail swimplatform - rubber D-profile mounted on tube OD30 welded at 6mm distance from shell (spacers not in delivery) - see scan stootrand
  • inner transom is a bending part
  • transom stairs - 1 bending part
  • keel and rudder as Catfish 1, unless we can improve it
  • sternthruster model and position as Catfish 1
  • air intake - was the Catfish logo but this might give problems with painting so this will become a simple label (needs to allow a flow of 10-15 m³/min for combustion)
  • airintake - integrate, solution? (purchase part is about €250)
  • bulwark - single plate, tube OD30 on top
  • bulwark iwo bow - continue over CL when doubts about strength - add hole for anchor
  • forepeak bhd - hole for inspection anchor arrangement
  • chain locker - drains to bowthruster
  • chainlocker - no bottom (Forepeak is under the waterline, it will flood)
  • rubrail - not present, striping only
  • bench aft deck - purchase part
  • engine room - as small as possible
  • engine room - not in steel
  • steering console - GRP part
  • escape hatch foredeck - no horizontal base required
  • stern thruster - no hatch in swimplatform required for inspection/removal
  • salon roof - side is a straight bending part, max. length 2000mm, after bending the part it is forced into the desired longitudinal curvature
  • forepeak bhd - access hole chainlocker without steel hatch


Subframe[edit]

Function:

  • base for interior construction
  • base for systems installation
  • mounting of interior + systems into hull

Surface model[edit]

  • no extended swimplatfrom
  • radius required at corner side/swimplatform to accommodate D-profile (fillet between side and transom, extends to the bottom)
  • foredeck - no hatches
  • bulwark - single plate, continue over bow when doubts about strength
  • bollard boxes - extend to deck
  • hull to be faired where neccessary
  • aftdeck surface - no cut out for bench

Building kit[edit]

  • windows - mark, cut or cut with bridges, up to us
  • portholes - partially cut
  • hatches - partially cut
  • salon entry - cut
  • thrusters - partially cut in shell


NOT in building kit[edit]
  • foundation optional generator
  • generator exhaust foundations
  • generator waterseparator overboard
  • generator exhaust shell penetration
  • generator start batterie frame
  • frame for optional service batteries
  • exhaust optional heater
  • exhaust shell penetration optional generator


Lifting plan[edit]

  • crane
    • longitudinal distance between hooks is 5300
    • transverse distance between hooks is 5000
    • total lifting height of yard crane is 5800

50 Outfitting[edit]

  • windscreen - coaming as Catfish1

Window wipers[edit]

  • will be mounted in the windscreen glass

Sole supports[edit]

  • conform GA, minimum headroom 2.00m net, sloping downward in forecabin
  • stairs - riser 225mm maximum
  • longitudinal rectangular tubes, in cutouts in frames

Windows and hatches[edit]

  • exact dimension and position pending on interior
  • drawn is exterior of windowprofile
  • profile overlaps steel by 17mm, HIP is offset of 20mm
  • salon entry - custom purchase part Boomsma

Groundtackle[edit]

  • bowrollers at bow
  • standard is a Muir manual operated windlass with separate chain pipe
  • optional is a Lewmar electrical operated windlass with integrated chain pipe

Bollards[edit]

  • screwed on

Thrusters[edit]

  • bow thruster greasing reservoir position(needs to bee DWL+500)

Rudder installation[edit]

  • manual override by means of square head at rudder shaft
  • rudder arm Vetus HELM40

Deck fills[edit]

  • deck fills - in side decks, fresh water on one side, fuel on the other side (respect distance between deckfills conform CE)

Deck drains[edit]

  • tube OD 60.3x2.9 R76 (at CL)

Engine room ventilation[edit]

  • grill - Vetus Air suction vent type ASV/SSV/SSVL size 80 - HIP 640x139 (free flow area 0.0321m2)
  • dorade box - plywood

Shaft installation[edit]

  • water lubrication - closed system (water taken from water injection of engine exhaust)

Cabrio hood and bimini[edit]

  • min headroom 1900mm (if possible 2000mm)
  • frame - bending radius 75mm (center of pipe)
  • supplier for frame fittings: Trisco

60 Systems[edit]

  • standard engine is Vetus DT 44
  • optional engine is Vetus DT 66
  • see Excel sheet 'catfish techniek'
  • electric switch panel 230V/24V Busch-Jaeger - not in our scope
  • optional heating (air) will be implemented in kit

Bilge[edit]

  • overboard in side, above WL
  • pump Rule 1100/24V (instead of Rule 1500 as in yard listing)
    • capacity 70 l/min.
    • pump Ø60.3
    • hose Ø28

Exhaust system[edit]

Main engine[edit]
  • engine DT 44 - Ø90 PS
    • st.st. elbows 90x2.0xR114.5 (Exalto 560090)
    • minimum bending radius for exhaust hose Ø90 DG rubber is 90mm (Vetus is 135mm)
  • engine DT 66 - Ø125 PS - not in delivery
  • waterlock - Exalto GRP waterlock vertical, dimensions for Ø90 and Ø125 are the same
  • muffler Vetus MP90 - canceled
  • gooseneck - steel tube welded in hull, penetration in way of engineroom
Generator[edit]
  • generator Onan - Ø ?

Bow and stern thrusters[edit]

  • tube Ø250 standard in boat, thrusters are optional

Cooling[edit]

  • engine connections
    • DT 44 -
    • DT 66 -

Fuel[edit]

Fresh water[edit]

  • fresh water tank custom made by Plastipro
    • construction is corner to corner
    • wall thickness is 10mm
    • they weld sockets with female thread
    • they can make suction pipe
    • they can make mounting brackets
    • for deckplates see Armstrong
  • expansion tank 5 liter
  • fresh water deck wash is on PS

Waste water[edit]

  • shower drain - skinfitting with hose Ø25
  • collection boxes - 2 units are required instead of 1 as mentioned in yard purchase list
  • NO direct overboard in system
  • toilets
    • breathers with plastic skinfitting - hole drilled by yard (not in building kit)
  • tank Vetus BTANK215 has a dop Ø62 in the top at 115mm from the front and 630mm from the right side

HVAC[edit]

Heating[edit]

  • supply air (circulation):
    • salon 1x Ø80mm fixed
  • exhaust grills:
    • 2 aft cabins: 1x Ø70mm closing OR 1 aft cabin: 2x Ø70mm closing
    • 4 bathrooms: 1x Ø70mm closing
    • salon: 2x Ø70mm closing
    • galley: 1x Ø80mm fixed in bench and 1x Ø80mm closing in galley cabinet
    • fore cabin: 1x Ø70mm closing

Electric[edit]

  • boardsystem is 24V
  • starter batteries
    • ME DT 44 - 2x 108Ah (12V)
    • ME DT 66 - min. 2x 66Ah - max. 2x 110Ah (24V?)
  • service batteries - 4x 165Ah
  • optional service batteries - 4x 165Ah
  • NO battery boxes
  • navigation lights
    • Osculati 'Classic 12' series (see mail 17-01-2012)

70 Interior[edit]

Joinery entry[edit]

Clearance[edit]

Styling[edit]

Lay out[edit]

Lay out variations[edit]
  • owners version: aft cabin with double bed, separate toilet with sink on PS and large shower on SB
  • rental version: double aft cabin with 2x 2 single beds, each with enclosed bathroom with toilet and shower

Hardware and fittings[edit]

Materials[edit]

  • 08-MDF-HPL/HPL - draw 10
  • 16-MDF-HPL/HPL - draw 18
  • 09-BIR-HPL/HPL - draw 11
  • 18-FIN-PF/PF - draw 19
  • 18-FIN-HPL/HPL - draw 20
  • 4mm Skai

Prices[edit]

  • birch plywood 13-14 €/m2
  • sandwich is about double the price of birch:
    • sandwich 18mm 25 €/m2
    • sandwich 30mm 32-33 €/m2

Sole[edit]

  • 18-FIN-HPL/HPL - draw 20
  • on 4mm foamstrips

Appliances[edit]

  • finish is HPL except window box which will be Sky
  • materials
    • basewood/shell covering - plywood ocoume
    • furniture - MDF + HPL
    • ? - birch plywood
    • Corian soles in wet units
  • wet units as Centreboard OR glassfibre
  • dinette's - rectangular, purchase parts, not to intersect shell
  • cabin doors - honeycomb with wooden insert at hinge side + HPL / ABS
  • cabinet closing device - push button latch Southco

Washbasin[edit]

80 Insulation[edit]

  • thermal - 80mm Rockwool
  • ER sound - 30mm from Merford
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