Difference between revisions of "Spatio Navis 40"

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General

• salesprice 215.000 € ex VAT
• to compete with:
  • Jetten 37 AC
  • Aventura 38 AC
• initial client - boat rental Schulz, renting a lot to group of man (biliart clubs, etc.)

Questions

• Emergency steering: rudder shaft with square head?
• Waste water - do we need pump or can it drain overboard without?
• Fresh water pump - Jabsco Max 4 (16.3 l/min - €174 brut) or Jabsco VSD Sensor Max 14 (13.5 l/min - € 318.00 brut)
• instruments - bidata ST40 / tridata ST60 are outdated, replace?

Classification

• CE-C

Yard budget

• estimated (mail 01-Jun-12):
  • steel 700
  • wood 750
  • paint 750
  • systems 350
  • sandblasting 100
  • outfitting and delivery 150

Supplier discounts

• 20% Marine Booster
• 40% Stazo
• 25% Webasto

Drawing list

• Note:
  • Below list is not complete
  • Drawings can be combined if suitable
• CE?

10 Design and styling

• 10-100 general arrangement
• 10-910 general data
  • net weight construction
  • net weight interior
  • total weight
  • COG
• 3D presentation models?
• renderings?

20 Naval Architecture

• 20-100 linesplan
• 20-300 centralizer

30 Propulsion

40 Construction

• 40-100 longitudinal construction plan
  • tank arrangement
  • propulsion arrangement
  • rudder arrangement
• 40-110 transverse construction plan (SC)
• 40-130 shell penetrations
• 40-200 expansions hull (SC)
• 40-210 expansions superstructure (SC)
• 40-220 bending and forming
• 40-300 build moulds
• 40-400 plate nests steel
• 40-410 plate nests stainless steel
• 40-910 material estimation steel
• 40-920 key data
  • net weight
  • brut weight
  • loss %
  • COG
  • cutting length

50 Outfitting

• 50-110 deck plan
• 50-111 fender details?
• 50-120 portholes and hatches
• 50-121 windows
• 50-122 entrance door and sliding hatch
• 50-123 windscreen
• 50-150 ventilation
• 50-160 stainless steel (incl. material estimation or on separate document?)
• 50-170 steering arrangement
• 50-180 windlass arrangement
• 50-190 mast
• 50-200 bench aftdeck
• 50-210 sprayhood and bimini
• 50-220 steering console?

60 Systems

• 60-100 bilge drainage
• 60-110 exhaust gas
• 60-120 ME cooling
• 60-130 fuel system
• 60-140 fresh water system
• 60-150 waste water system
• 60-160 heating

70 Interior

• 70-100 set up interior
• 70-105 general detail plan
• 70-110 sole plan
• 70-120 lining plan
• 70-121 base wood plan
• 70-130 ceiling plan
• 70-140 lighting plan
• 70-150 profile list
• 70-160 cabin doors
• 70-161 salon table
• 70-162 cabin stairs
• 70-163 cooling box
• 70-170 upholstery
• 70-800 nests
• 70-810 furniture expansions
• 70-820 furniture assemblies
• 70-910 key data
  • net weight
  • brut weight
  • loss %
  • COG
  • cutting length
• 70-920 material estimation plywood
• 70-930 hardware list
• 70-940 hardware catalogue
• 70-950 assembly names

10 Design

• sales strategy is to offer as much berths as possible for the lowest price so the boat will be very interesting for the rental market
• only developable surfaces:
  • no forming plates
  • no bending plates
  • only 'radiused' plates
• simple and cheap - the less components the cheaper to build
• furniture to be split in units which can be prefabricated outside the boat (and outside the premises)
• sidedeck steps - not IN bathrooms but well before them (possible use for breathers)
• transom stairs
  • width 500-550 (older people)
• last step ending under 45 degrees with CL
  • transom gas locker PS - for 2x 5kg gas bottle
• swimplatform
  • length minimum 800mm
  • swimplatform - lower part at least 200mm above DWL (to avoid slamming waves against swimplatform
• transom corners - well rounded
• transom cheeks with knuckles?
• sidedecks - 450mm wide
• superstructure - max width 3100-3150
• bench aftdeck - initially steel, later GRP?
• railing cloths - steel (Schulz)
• rope fender around hull
• rubber fender around swimplatform
• steering
  • wheel Ø800
  • wheel nearly horizontal

50 outfitting

• windows
  • sliding window in salon side
  • supplier - Rhigo (mail 03-11-2012)
• portholes
  • supplier - Gebo
  • PS and SB can be non symmetrical
  • hull - glue plexiglass/lexan?
  • hull - combine with ER air intake?
• deck hatches
  • supplier - Gebo
  • make sure you can reach the hatch for closing/opening
  • entrance hatch - GRP Centerboard standard
• doors
  • transom door - Gebo hatch 900x600
• gas locker
  • door Belship
• ventilation
  • very important and permanent
  • all spaces
• aftdeck
  • fridge
  • sink + tap
  • helmsman seat - Swingback Seat with Stainless Steel Arms Todd USA (fridge integrated?) (mail 16-10-2012)

70 interior

• aftcabin
  • bed under 45 degrees against transom
  • option for double cabin layout (can be non symmetric)
  • double bed convertible into 2 single beds (sliding/hinging system, seen on Greenline 33)
• headroom
  • bathrooms 1900

20 Naval Architecture

transom rounding

• well rounded to avoid damage during leaving quai side
• keep step of 150mm next to stairs so you can step on the quai side
• hull transom can stop before rounding (shortening hull)

tanks

• capacity (Ontwerp instructies SP-N40):
  • 500l FW (because of 2 showers)
  • 300l fuel
  • 500l WW (for example in keel, to not create heel/trim)
• tank status to not influence trim/heel
• WW tank above FW tank, transverse in front of forward ER bhd?
• diesel immediatley aft of forward ER bhd?
• all custom made PP tanks
• fuel - if only 1 tank forward of engine than steel tank against bhd, not attached to shell, condens sump with baffle plate above and tap

keel

30 Propulsion

• engine - IVECO N45 MNA M10.2 74 KW 100PK (mail 15-10-12)
  • adjustabel mounting with spacers (as CC40?) (mail 19-11-12)
• gearbox - Technodrive TM93 (mail 15-10-12)
• coupling/thrusterbearing
  • Aquadrive (Ontwerp instructies SP-N40)
  • angles of Aquadrive in and out to be equal
• shaft Ø40 ITAL cone 1:10
• propellor - 'standard'
• nozzle - canceled (by phone 5-11-2012) alternative prop protection with 2 horizontal fins welded to the keel/skeg, length is half prop Ø
• bow and stern thruster - Sidepower 100kgm 12V in tube Ø185 (confirmed 6-11-12 by mail)
• suggestion Schulz: Craftsman CM4.80 - price for 5 pcs €7700
• Schulz: Deutz 1013M engines are very reliable
• Schulz: replacing 10 propellors per year, sometimes including shaft, because of under water rocks/stones
• rudder
  • plastic 50mm
  • sheet size 2000x1000 - consider when designing rudder (width <=500 for example)

40 Construction

• as cheap as possible (simple, light)
• yard budget 600 manhours
• side stiffening - longitudinal FB CNC
• transverse bottom stiffening - CNC frames ending against T-stringers
• roof beams - CNC (profile is hard to make them all exact the same)
• round corners of pipe segment - choose 1 radius for all corners
• salon front to be with rounded corners
• sole
  • longitudinal rectangular tubes 60x40x3(as Aventura 43), used for cables too (thrusters, windlass)
  • partially removable for entering/rotating the sanitary units
• salon will be 'removable' in order to bring in the prefabbed interior parts, coupling detail as CC40, see notes inbox\'Ontwerp instructies SP-N40.doc'
• sandblasting - make sure all spaces are accessible for sand blasting
• moulds - boat is build upside down (including lower part of superstructure), deliver moulds with first boat
• fender base - rect. tube 120x80x4
• rudder cylinder foundation - consider VDO rudder sensor
• incorporate:
  • ears/lips for interior positioning
  • ears/rings/holes for piping
  • system foundations
• steering position
  • instruments removed from IVECO panel
  • Trespa panel (ga ik gebruiken want ik heb hier nogal wat liggen.)
  • window wiper panel
  • VDO FO gauge
  • VDO FW gauge
  • WW gauge
  • Ray Marine Tridata or Bidata
  • VDO rudder angle indicator
  • Side-Power panel
  • panel with 6 rocker switches for:
    • horn
    • de activate buzzer
    • instrument lighting + navigation lights
    • anchor light
    • bilgepump
    • bench lighting aftdeck (optional)
  • engine control (side mounted)
  • may be - radio control
• bulwark pipe 1" thick walled (33.4x3.25)
• swimplatform
  • open construction
  • draining aft (1.5° at CL)

Paneel ook zo opbouwen met lange lasbochten (5S?) en achter een 10mm RVS rond. In het frame plaat met gat –randen 30 mm- waarbij Trespa plaat bovenzijde op hart buis ligt.

50 Outfitting

windows

• indicate wall thickness on drawing (steel + PVC)

steering

• Levanto 38 has comparable displacement and steers well so we will try to use the same system BUT we have to use components of CUNO if possible:
  • arm yard made
  • cylinder Ultraflex UC215-I (111kgm)- LC465 40-52, 115kgm from CUNO
  • pump Ultraflex UP39 - LS451140, 40cc, with check valve and mounting bracket included from CUNO
  • wheel Ø575 (conform dwg)- Model for this project Ø550 Stazo type 12
  • arm strikes are tube 60x30
  • cylinder stroke should be slightly bigger then strike

fenders

• lower fender of rubber around swimplatform (well rounded corners) - starting at aft ER bulkhead, modified Aventura 43 profile, shore 90 (ask for new drawing)
  • min. bending radius R=500mm (mail 23-11-2012)
• rope fender
  • Ø110 (mail 22-11-2012)
  • around hull and transom cheeks (renters succeed to damage even this part of the boat with manouvring)

windlass arrangement

• manual Cuno - Lofrans Royal?
• chainpipe 76x2mm RVS 304 through bow
• anchor - 35kg st.st. polished - TBS?

navigation lights

• no LED
• boardlights
• anchorlight
• steamlight
• sternlight

stainless steel

• 4x double bollards
• 2x single bollard on swimplatform (smaller model), directly welded on swimplatform
• flagpole support at bow and transom
• anchor protection plate at bow
• fender fairings
• handrail rooftop
• handrail transom (horizontal)
• railing 650mm high, single tube (verify height and number of tubes with CE)
• mast (folding)
• swimladder
• boarding ladder side with 2/3 steps (see pictures)

aftdeck

• sink
• cooling box in helm seat

hatches and portlights

• make Gebo
• portlights fixed in cabins
• portlights opening in bathrooms
• deck hatches 500x500
• transom hatch 900x600
• companionway without window

sliding hatch

• GRP
• recessed
• dimensions as 476

windscreen

• see remarks 'Ontwerp instructies SP-N40'
• window wiper 3x, see mail 30-11-2012

60 Systems

general

• pumps - Waeco (cheap and reliable conform Schulz)

bilge

• pump - Cuno 50880-1000
• switch - Belship 032351
  • switch will activate only a buzzer at steering console
• limber holes in all frames for water to drane in to the bilge sump

exhaust

• one side
• st.st. tube Ø100mm above DWL (check with CE) directing aft
• waterlock Ø100mm Cuno (as Aventura 43)

cooling ME

• short stand-pipe of about 50mm (so pipe interior can be painted with brush)

heating

• cabins - radiators
• wet cabins - towel radiator
• piping - Ø20mm - iFIT by Georg Fischer (full CAD library available on website) (for parts see mail 12-11-12)
  • when Webasto tap unit is used a short pipe of Ø25 iFIT is requiered

Webasto 90ST

• Thermo 90S 12V Plug & heat - Webasto 77054700 - € 1.886,40 (2011-03) (project 476)
• thermostat for 90ST / 24V -Webasto 25011C - € 39,88 (2011-03)
• expansiontank with sideglass and dop - Webasto 79289500 - € 215,82 (2011-03)
• exhaust thermo isolatie L=1850mm - Webasto 1313978A - € 63.00 (2011-03)
• exhaust silencer 38mm RVS met steun - Webasto .14 - € 116.42 (2011-03)
• exhaust clamp 42mm (9002255A) - Webasto 79643700 - € 5,63
• NOTE: Webasto writes in their mail of 18-10-12 (our mail 12-11-12) that the radiators are not enough for the heater to dispense it's heat so they offer a blower of Isotherm, initially 1 but more might be required

Webasto DBW 2010

• DBW 2010 12V CH - air heating - € 2.973,76 (2012-10 see offer in inbox)

Webasto DBW 2016

• DBW 2016C 24V TAP, incl. 3391438A 20 ltr. buffertank isotemp - Webasto 3391826A - € 2,721.60 (2011-03)
• expansion tank 8l 'Aquabox' - Webasto 149036 - € 44.85 (2011-03)
• bracket for expansion tank - Webasto 3200627A - € 19.51 (2011-03)

ventilation

• wet cabins - mushroom Vetus
• Vetus Typhoon in bench aftdeck for permanent ventilation (Ontwerp instructies SP-N40)
• Vetus Tom as on 483 (Ontwerp instructies SP-N40)

ventilation ER

• ER - as Aventura 43 (Ontwerp instructies SP-N40)
• NO blower (mail 7-11-2012)
• grill as Aventura 43 (mail 7-11-2012)

fresh water

• accumulator tank 8l (Cuno 337020)
• bracket set (Cuno 337021)
• pump Jabsco Max 4 (Cuno 3368) / Jabsco VSD Sensor Max 14
  • bracket set has provisions for mounting the pump so no separate pump foundation required!
• boiler 40 lt Cuno 230V + engine connected (as Aventura 43)
• sink on aftdeck
• piping - Ø16mm - iFIT by Georg Fischer (full CAD library available on website)

waste water

• issue - when tank is full the shit exits via breather or makes a pipe burst which drains the shit into the boat - how to avoid?
  • SH: when tanks is full the indicator should give a signal which stops the operation of the toilet flush button, together with an indicator (blinking light) on the flush panel
• material - plastic
• tank emptying - pump Jabsco macerator pump type 18590 (Cuno 18590-2092)- will be mounted directly on tank with threaded 1 1/2 connection, so no separate foundation required!Pump cancelled, Venturi effect mail 03-12-2012
• tank connections - toilets only
• 1x grey waste tank 16 lt Whale (in foreship, from aftship will come via pipe into this box) with the following connections:
  • showers
  • wash basins
• grey waste tank will drain directly overboard
• galley drains directly overboard
• no smell filter Belship (Whale) as 483
• toilets
  • piping - Ø50mm - PVC-C by Georg Fischer (full CAD library available on website)

electrical

• panels 12V / 24V / 230V as Aventura 43
• second alternator on engine 12V / 150A
• NO optional generator (mail 01-11-2012)
• engine - comes with a relay box which must be mounted nearby

batteries

• 2x foreship for thruster
• 2x aftship for thruster

instruments + navigation

• Raymarine Bi-data
• navigation lights - no LED

ligthing

• LED in salon, other spaces normal lamps (but interchangable with LED (Ontwerp instructies SP-N40)
• switch - wall mounted (mail 02-Oct-12)

70 Interior

materials

• HPL (mail 03-10-2012, includes price offer)
• tops - latest idea jan: Wilsonart 13mm (mail 11-28)
• sole
  • salon Baryfloor 6-6-6 (20kg/m2)
  • salon finish HPL teak and holly (1st) or PVC (2nd)
• make several color proposals (renderings) based upon HPL (incl. non-wood)
• hinges and closing devices as 483

sole

• hatches where required for removing debris in bilge

upholstery

• possible supplier is Gisa Tex (D)

wet cabins

• spraypainted
• sole - Wilsonart
• prefab unit, including systems?
• toilet - seat height maximum 490mm (mail (26-11-2012)
• cabin PS fore
  • try to create 600mm distance between wall and vanity (mail 01-12-2012)

appliances

• NO hood above stove
• toilet - SeaLand MasterFlush Electric by Waeco
• wash basins - Alape glassed steel
• TV lift - 230V see purchase list ?!? (Ontwerp instructies SP-N40)
• optional
  • microwave (under sidedeck?)

80 Paint and insulation

• insulation
  • hull - spray PU
  • decks / superstructure - Kingspan Thermaroof TR26