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Revision as of 12:15, 20 August 2013
Contents
General
Description
Contacts
- client: Dick Alewijnse (NL) - DA is contactperson for all questions regarding systems
- project manager: Robin ten Hoope (NL) - RtH also drew up the interior since GDNP did not have time for it
- contact person GDNP: Erik Wassen (NL)
Classification
Scope
Drawing list
Time schedule
Trivia
- carbon mast costs about 250K which is more expensive than the interior (and the interior is more expensive than the aluminum construction)
- sistership 'Windhunter III' is build by Aluboot (Henk Borneman) and owned by Johan Mast
- ballast system with dumphatches is developed by Heine Deelstra from Gaastmeer Design, in cooperation with K&M Yachtbuilders
Questions
To do
10 General arrangement
40 Construction
- frames will be all plate
- bulb profiles change into FB
Liftkeel
- detailing might be done by Frans Brandjes
50 Outfitting
60 Systems
General
- overboards - all above WL
- overboards - combine as much as possible
- valves - reduce number of valves where possible
- drafting
- draw at scale 1:1
- scale in titleblock is 'NA' (not applicable)
- uniform use of symbols
- uniform size of symbols
- all tables grouped vertical in right side of drawing
- all on A2 format?
- use new titleblock / notes / table
- don't add unnecessary knucles in lines
- in the near future we should standarize symbols and draw the diagrams on a grid of 10x10
- use ball valve symbol instead of globe valve symbol
- use E for electric operated valves
- collect supplier data for each appliance (in the project folder there is not any documentation)
Ballastsystem Windhunter
- breather pipe must have sufficient diameter, Windhunter has Ø50 which is considered too small, they advice Ø80
- breatherpipes go to grills in aftside doghouse
- when breatherpipes overflow you know the tanks are full
- Goiot hatches operation lines are lead to the cockpit and have a 2:1 tackle
- Goiot hatcehs have a lever
- double bottom is used as cross over, K&M is not satisfied with (hard to make watertight, no inspection possible) and prefers 2 or 3 large diameter pipes
- Goiot deckhatch rectangular, for example 300x500 or 250x400, plexiglas replaced by aluminum panel
- advantage of using standard deckhatch is that spareparts like gaskets can be easily found and replaced
- Windhunter uses only ballastwater, we use a combination with grey water which gives smells so the breather pipe should be a closed ring?
Bilge
- manifold in galley (against trunk ER?), all manual valves well accessible
- draw breathers always in upper end of line
- seperate cross over from fill/suction line (saves 1 BIG manifold)
- calculate fill up/empty time for wing tank (verify cross sections of breather + cross over)
Fresh water
- note: wingtanks are not intended for storage because they heat up due to blue hull
- reduce number of valves
- toilets possibly come with double connections for FW / seawater, then no valve required, check this out (possible supplier is Raritan or Tecma)
- pumps, hydrofor, etc - to be removable: valves fore and aft
- add taps at low points
- reduce overboards by combining pipes
- use colors for hot (don't use 'warm') and cold water
- disconnect sea water tap galley from FW system
- calculate required time to fill up wingtanks with hydrophor
- breatherpipes wingtanks of sufficient diameter (calculate time required to empty/fill one tank?)
- breatherpipes wingtanks to keeltrunk?
- connect crossovers to bottom of wingtanks
- connect fill lines to sides of bottomtanks
- LS of HL as in bilge diagram?
questions / remarks SH
- Robin - bottom tanks - did we discuss about increasing the size or moving?
- cross over and breather section to be calculated (how much time it takes to move the water from PS to SB)
- fill - why via wingtanks? wingtanks should not be used for storage so fill should go directly to bottomtanks?
- wing tanks - why drain?
- wing tanks - why spare connection on top?
- wing tanks - avoid that water drains through breather line
- wing tanks - extend fill line to near bottom to reduce noise?
- bottom tanks - why a valve in breather line?
- watermaker - connect directly to bottom tanks only?
- cross over - always filled with water
- hot water to laundry machine?
Sea water
- galley - own faucet, no connection to FW faucet
Black water
- breather aft in transom, forward in mast?
Fuel
- pump does not require electric valves fore and aft
Electric
- generator - Northern Lights? Wisperpower company is running into troubles?
Propulsion
- Steyr 4 or 6 cylinder
- check out if 26" prop can be combined with Twindisc gearbox, because of space issue, ER trunk might require modification, together with interior engine/shaft angles can be modified, keep 30% tipdistance for propellor, longitudinal position can be modified
- propellor
- Flexofold 26" (optional 25" or 28", pending on engine and gearbox combination, issue is behaviour of sailing reverse)
- drawing of Twindisc is in e-mail of 22-07-2013