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====questions / remarks SH====
 
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Revision as of 10:28, 15 August 2013

General

Description

Contacts

  • client: Dick Alewijnse (NL) - DA is contactperson for all questions regarding systems
  • project manager: Robin ten Hoope (NL) - RtH also drew up the interior since GDNP did not have time for it
  • contact person GDNP: Erik Wassen (NL)

Classification

Scope

Drawing list

Time schedule

Trivia

  • carbon mast costs about 250K which is more expensive than the interior (and the interior is more expensive than the aluminum construction)
  • sistership 'Windhunter III' is build by Aluboot (Henk Borneman) and owned by Johan Mast
  • ballast system with dumphatches is developed by Heine Deelstra from Gaastmeer Design, in cooperation with K&M Yachtbuilders

Questions

To do

10 General arrangement

20 Naval architecture

40 Construction

  • frames will be all plate
  • bulb profiles change into FB

Liftkeel

50 Outfitting

60 Systems

  • fuel

* Must be added the rest of the DN's * Filling and vent pipe is Alu, transfer and consumers st. st. * Content table from paper space to be completed

  • bilge

* Piping is PP in combination with hose (the crossover pipe between wing tanks is alu) * Add the rest of the diameters for piping * Put in the system drawing and rihno smell traps where neded (freezer, AC drip trays, laundry machine, dishwash), for sinks will be a siphon with smell trap. No smell from the collection tank should go out.

  • black water

* Must be added the rest of the DN's * Content table from paper space to be completed

  • exhaust

* the water separators positioned on the transom to avoid mounting a goosneck * Content table from paper space to be completed * The engine waterlock can be replaced with - Halyard side 45 dgr in/ top out H001459 Foot 275x275, if the one from the diagram does not comply with the producer's mounting requests. * The generator waterlock and separator must be dimensioned (how many liters) * The generator waterlock can bilgebe Halyard if the one mentioned in the diagram does not comply with the producer's mounting requests.

  • seawater

* Add diameters for piping * Add seawater intake for chiller plant Webasto. Can be from the manifold or must be separate? * Engine cooling- indirect?




General

  • overboards - all above WL
  • overboards - combine as much as possible
  • valves - reduce number of valves where possible
  • drafting
    • draw at scale 1:1
    • scale in titleblock is 'NA' (not applicable)
    • uniform use of symbols
    • uniform size of symbols
    • all tables grouped vertical in right side of drawing
    • all on A2 format?
    • use new titleblock / notes / table
    • don't add unnecessary knucles in lines
    • in the near future we should standarize symbols and draw the diagrams on a grid of 10x10
  • collect supplier data for each appliance (in the project folder there is not any documentation)

Ballastsystem Windhunter

    • breather pipe must have sufficient diameter, Windhunter has Ø50 which is considered too small, they advice Ø80
    • breatherpipes go to grills in aftside doghouse
    • when breatherpipes overflow you know the tanks are full
    • Goiot hatches operation lines are lead to the cockpit and have a 2:1 tackle
    • Goiot hatcehs have a lever
    • double bottom is used as cross over, K&M is not satisfied with (hard to make watertight, no inspection possible) and prefers 2 or 3 large diameter pipes
    • Goiot deckhatch rectangular, for example 300x500 or 250x400, plexiglas replaced by aluminum panel
    • advantage of using standard deckhatch is that spareparts like gaskets can be easily found and replaced
    • Windhunter uses only ballastwater, we use a combination with grey water which gives smells so the breather pipe should be a closed ring?

Bilge

  • manifold in galley (against trunk ER?), all manual valves well accessible

Fresh water

  • note: wingtanks are not intended for storage because they heat up due to blue hull
  • reduce number of valves
  • toilets possibly come with double connections for FW / seawater, then no valve required, check this out (possible supplier is Raritan or Tecma)
  • pumps, hydrofor, etc - to be removable: valves fore and aft
  • add taps at low points
  • reduce overboards by combining pipes
  • use colors for hot (don't use 'warm') and cold water
  • disconnect sea water tap galley from FW system
  • calculate required time to fill up wingtanks with hydrophor
  • breatherpipes wingtanks of sufficient diameter (calculate time required to empty/fill one tank?)
  • breatherpipes wingtanks to keeltrunk?
  • connect crossovers to bottom of wingtanks
  • connect fill lines to sides of bottomtanks
  • LS of HL as in bilge diagram?

questions / remarks SH

  • Robin - bottom tanks - did we discuss about increasing the size or moving?
  • cross over and breather section to be calculated (how much time it takes to move the water from PS to SB)
  • fill - why via wingtanks? wingtanks should not be used for storage so fill should go directly to bottomtanks?
  • fill - why a valve on top of the tank?
  • wing tanks - why drain?
  • wing tanks - why spare connection on top?
  • wing tanks - avoid that water drains through breather line
  • bottom tanks - why a valve in breather line?
  • watermaker - connect directly to bottom tanks only?
  • cross over - always filled with water

Sea water

  • galley - own faucet, no connection to FW faucet

Black water

  • breather aft in transom, forward in mast?

Fuel

  • pump does not require electric valves fore and aft

Electric

  • generator - Northern Lights? Wisperpower company is running into troubles?

Propulsion

  • Steyr 4 or 6 cylinder
  • check out if 26" prop can be combined with Twindisc gearbox, because of space issue, ER trunk might require modification, together with interior engine/shaft angles can be modified, keep 30% tipdistance for propellor, longitudinal position can be modified
  • propellor
    • Flexofold 26" (optional 25" or 28", pending on engine and gearbox combination, issue is behaviour of sailing reverse)
  • drawing of Twindisc is in e-mail of 22-07-2013

70 Interior

80 Paint and insulation

90 Safety