Spatio Navis 40

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General

  • salesprice 215.000 € ex VAT
  • to compete with:
    • Jetten 37 AC
    • Aventura 38 AC
  • initial client - boat rental Schulz, renting a lot to group of man (biliart clubs, etc.)

Questions

  • Emergency steering: rudder shaft with square head?
  • Waste water - do we need pump or can it drain overboard without?
  • Fresh water pump - Jabsco Max 4 (16.3 l/min - €174 brut) or Jabsco VSD Sensor Max 14 (13.5 l/min - € 318.00 brut)
  • instruments - bidata ST40 / tridata ST60 are outdated, replace?

Classification

  • CE-C

Yard budget

  • estimated (mail 01-Jun-12):
    • steel 700
    • wood 750
    • paint 750
    • systems 350
    • sandblasting 100
    • outfitting and delivery 150

Supplier discounts

  • 20% Marine Booster
  • 40% Stazo
  • 25% Webasto

Drawing list

  • Note:
    • Below list is not complete
    • Drawings can be combined if suitable
  • CE?

10 Design and styling

  • 10-100 general arrangement
  • 10-910 general data
    • net weight construction
    • net weight interior
    • total weight
    • COG
  • 3D presentation models?
  • renderings?

20 Naval Architecture

30 Propulsion

40 Construction

  • 40-100 longitudinal construction plan
    • tank arrangement
    • propulsion arrangement
    • rudder arrangement
  • 40-110 transverse construction plan (SC)
  • 40-130 shell penetrations
  • 40-200 expansions hull (SC)
  • 40-210 expansions superstructure (SC)
  • 40-220 bending and forming
  • 40-300 build moulds
  • 40-400 plate nests steel
  • 40-410 plate nests stainless steel
  • 40-910 material estimation steel
  • 40-920 key data
    • net weight
    • brut weight
    • loss %
    • COG
    • cutting length

50 Outfitting

  • 50-110 deck plan
  • 50-111 fender details?
  • 50-120 portholes and hatches
  • 50-121 windows
  • 50-122 entrance door and sliding hatch
  • 50-123 windscreen
  • 50-150 ventilation
  • 50-160 stainless steel (incl. material estimation or on separate document?)
  • 50-170 steering arrangement
  • 50-180 windlass arrangement
  • 50-190 mast
  • 50-200 bench aftdeck
  • 50-210 sprayhood and bimini
  • 50-220 steering console?

60 Systems

  • 60-100 bilge drainage
  • 60-110 exhaust gas
  • 60-120 ME cooling
  • 60-130 fuel system
  • 60-140 fresh water system
  • 60-150 waste water system
  • 60-160 heating

70 Interior

  • 70-100 set up interior
  • 70-105 general detail plan
  • 70-110 sole plan
  • 70-120 lining plan
  • 70-121 base wood plan
  • 70-130 ceiling plan
  • 70-140 lighting plan
  • 70-150 profile list
  • 70-160 cabin doors
  • 70-161 salon table
  • 70-162 cabin stairs
  • 70-163 cooling box
  • 70-170 upholstery
  • 70-800 nests
  • 70-810 furniture expansions
  • 70-820 furniture assemblies
  • 70-910 key data
    • net weight
    • brut weight
    • loss %
    • COG
    • cutting length
  • 70-920 material estimation plywood
  • 70-930 hardware list
  • 70-940 hardware catalogue
  • 70-950 assembly names

10 Design

  • sales strategy is to offer as much berths as possible for the lowest price so the boat will be very interesting for the rental market
  • only developable surfaces:
    • no forming plates
    • no bending plates
    • only 'radiused' plates
  • simple and cheap - the less components the cheaper to build
  • furniture to be split in units which can be prefabricated outside the boat (and outside the premises)
  • sidedeck steps - not IN bathrooms but well before them (possible use for breathers)
  • transom stairs
    • width 500-550 (older people)
  • last step ending under 45 degrees with CL
    • transom gas locker PS - for 2x 5kg gas bottle
  • swimplatform
    • length minimum 800mm
    • swimplatform - lower part at least 200mm above DWL (to avoid slamming waves against swimplatform
  • transom corners - well rounded
  • transom cheeks with knuckles?
  • sidedecks - 450mm wide
  • superstructure - max width 3100-3150
  • bench aftdeck - initially steel, later GRP?
  • railing cloths - steel (Schulz)
  • rope fender around hull
  • rubber fender around swimplatform
  • steering
    • wheel Ø800
    • wheel nearly horizontal

50 outfitting

  • windows
    • sliding window in salon side
    • supplier - Rhigo (mail 03-11-2012)
  • portholes
    • supplier - Gebo
    • PS and SB can be non symmetrical
    • hull - glue plexiglass/lexan?
    • hull - combine with ER air intake?
  • deck hatches
    • supplier - Gebo
    • make sure you can reach the hatch for closing/opening
    • entrance hatch - GRP Centerboard standard
  • doors
    • transom door - Gebo hatch 900x600
  • gas locker
    • door Belship
  • ventilation
    • very important and permanent
    • all spaces
  • aftdeck
    • fridge
    • sink + tap
    • helmsman seat - Swingback Seat with Stainless Steel Arms Todd USA (fridge integrated?) (mail 16-10-2012)

70 interior

  • aftcabin
    • bed under 45 degrees against transom
    • option for double cabin layout (can be non symmetric)
    • double bed convertible into 2 single beds (sliding/hinging system, seen on Greenline 33)
  • headroom
    • bathrooms 1900

20 Naval Architecture

transom rounding

  • well rounded to avoid damage during leaving quai side
  • keep step of 150mm next to stairs so you can step on the quai side
  • hull transom can stop before rounding (shortening hull)

tanks

  • capacity (Ontwerp instructies SP-N40):
    • 500l FW (because of 2 showers)
    • 300l fuel
    • 500l WW (for example in keel, to not create heel/trim)
  • tank status to not influence trim/heel
  • WW tank above FW tank, transverse in front of forward ER bhd?
  • diesel immediatley aft of forward ER bhd?
  • all custom made PP tanks
  • fuel - if only 1 tank forward of engine than steel tank against bhd, not attached to shell, condens sump with baffle plate above and tap

keel

30 Propulsion

  • engine - IVECO N45 MNA M10.2 74 KW 100PK (mail 15-10-12)
    • adjustabel mounting with spacers (as CC40?) (mail 19-11-12)
  • gearbox - Technodrive TM93 (mail 15-10-12)
  • coupling/thrusterbearing
    • Aquadrive (Ontwerp instructies SP-N40)
    • angles of Aquadrive in and out to be equal
  • shaft Ø40 ITAL cone 1:10
  • propellor - 'standard'
  • nozzle - canceled (by phone 5-11-2012) alternative prop protection with 2 horizontal fins welded to the keel/skeg, length is half prop Ø
  • bow and stern thruster - Sidepower 100kgm 12V in tube Ø185 (confirmed 6-11-12 by mail)
  • suggestion Schulz: Craftsman CM4.80 - price for 5 pcs €7700
  • Schulz: Deutz 1013M engines are very reliable
  • Schulz: replacing 10 propellors per year, sometimes including shaft, because of under water rocks/stones
  • rudder
    • plastic 50mm
    • sheet size 2000x1000 - consider when designing rudder (width <=500 for example)

40 Construction

  • as cheap as possible (simple, light)
  • yard budget 600 manhours
  • side stiffening - longitudinal FB CNC
  • transverse bottom stiffening - CNC frames ending against T-stringers
  • roof beams - CNC (profile is hard to make them all exact the same)
  • round corners of pipe segment - choose 1 radius for all corners
  • salon front to be with rounded corners
  • sole
    • longitudinal rectangular tubes 60x40x3(as Aventura 43), used for cables too (thrusters, windlass)
    • partially removable for entering/rotating the sanitary units
  • salon will be 'removable' in order to bring in the prefabbed interior parts, coupling detail as CC40, see notes inbox\'Ontwerp instructies SP-N40.doc'
  • sandblasting - make sure all spaces are accessible for sand blasting
  • moulds - boat is build upside down (including lower part of superstructure), deliver moulds with first boat
  • fender base - rect. tube 120x80x4
  • rudder cylinder foundation - consider VDO rudder sensor
  • incorporate:
    • ears/lips for interior positioning
    • ears/rings/holes for piping
    • system foundations
  • steering position
    • instruments removed from IVECO panel
    • Trespa panel (ga ik gebruiken want ik heb hier nogal wat liggen.)
    • window wiper panel
    • VDO FO gauge
    • VDO FW gauge
    • WW gauge
    • Ray Marine Tridata or Bidata
    • VDO rudder angle indicator
    • Side-Power panel
    • panel with 6 rocker switches for:
      • horn
      • de activate buzzer
      • instrument lighting + navigation lights
      • anchor light
      • bilgepump
      • bench lighting aftdeck (optional)
    • engine control (side mounted)
    • may be - radio control
  • bulwark pipe 1" thick walled (33.4x3.25)
  • swimplatform
    • open construction
    • draining aft (1.5° at CL)

Paneel ook zo opbouwen met lange lasbochten (5S?) en achter een 10mm RVS rond. In het frame plaat met gat –randen 30 mm- waarbij Trespa plaat bovenzijde op hart buis ligt.

50 Outfitting

steering

  • Levanto 38 has comparable displacement and steers well so we will try to use the same system BUT we have to use components of CUNO if possible:
    • arm yard made
    • cylinder Ultraflex UC215-I (111kgm)- LC465 40-52, 115kgm from CUNO
    • pump Ultraflex UP39 - LS451140, 40cc, with check valve and mounting bracket included from CUNO
    • wheel Ø575 (conform dwg)- Model for this project Ø550 Stazo type 12
    • arm strikes are tube 60x30
    • cylinder stroke should be slightly bigger then strike

fenders

  • lower fender of rubber around swimplatform (well rounded corners) - starting at aft ER bulkhead, modified Aventura 43 profile, shore 90 (ask for new drawing)
    • min. bending radius R=500mm (mail 23-11-2012)
  • rope fender
    • Ø110 (mail 22-11-2012)
    • around hull and transom cheeks (renters succeed to damage even this part of the boat with manouvring)

windlass arrangement

  • manual Cuno - Lofrans Royal?
  • chainpipe 76x2mm RVS 304 through bow
  • anchor - 35kg st.st. polished - TBS?

navigation lights

  • no LED
  • boardlights
  • anchorlight
  • steamlight
  • sternlight

stainless steel

  • 4x double bollards
  • 2x single bollard on swimplatform (smaller model), directly welded on swimplatform
  • flagpole support at bow and transom
  • anchor protection plate at bow
  • fender fairings
  • handrail rooftop
  • handrail transom (horizontal)
  • railing 650mm high, single tube (verify height and number of tubes with CE)
  • mast (folding)
  • swimladder
  • boarding ladder side with 2/3 steps (see pictures)

aftdeck

  • sink
  • cooling box in helm seat

hatches and portlights

  • make Gebo
  • portlights fixed in cabins
  • portlights opening in bathrooms
  • deck hatches 500x500
  • transom hatch 900x600
  • companionway without window

sliding hatch

  • GRP
  • recessed
  • dimensions as 476

windscreen

  • see remarks 'Ontwerp instructies SP-N40'
  • window wiper 3x

60 Systems

general

  • pumps - Waeco (cheap and reliable conform Schulz)

bilge

  • pump - Cuno 50880-1000
  • switch - Belship 032351
    • switch will activate only a buzzer at steering console
  • limber holes in all frames for water to drane in to the bilge sump

exhaust

  • one side
  • st.st. tube Ø100mm above DWL (check with CE) directing aft
  • waterlock Ø100mm Cuno (as Aventura 43)

cooling ME

  • short stand-pipe of about 50mm (so pipe interior can be painted with brush)

heating

  • cabins - radiators
  • wet cabins - towel radiator
  • piping - Ø20mm - iFIT by Georg Fischer (full CAD library available on website) (for parts see mail 12-11-12)
    • when Webasto tap unit is used a short pipe of Ø25 iFIT is requiered

Webasto 90ST

  • Thermo 90S 12V Plug & heat - Webasto 77054700 - € 1.886,40 (2011-03) (project 476)
  • thermostat for 90ST / 24V -Webasto 25011C - € 39,88 (2011-03)
  • expansiontank with sideglass and dop - Webasto 79289500 - € 215,82 (2011-03)
  • exhaust thermo isolatie L=1850mm - Webasto 1313978A - € 63.00 (2011-03)
  • exhaust silencer 38mm RVS met steun - Webasto .14 - € 116.42 (2011-03)
  • exhaust clamp 42mm (9002255A) - Webasto 79643700 - € 5,63
  • NOTE: Webasto writes in their mail of 18-10-12 (our mail 12-11-12) that the radiators are not enough for the heater to dispense it's heat so they offer a blower of Isotherm, initially 1 but more might be required

Webasto DBW 2010

  • DBW 2010 12V CH - air heating - € 2.973,76 (2012-10 see offer in inbox)

Webasto DBW 2016

  • DBW 2016C 24V TAP, incl. 3391438A 20 ltr. buffertank isotemp - Webasto 3391826A - € 2,721.60 (2011-03)
  • expansion tank 8l 'Aquabox' - Webasto 149036 - € 44.85 (2011-03)
  • bracket for expansion tank - Webasto 3200627A - € 19.51 (2011-03)

ventilation

  • wet cabins - mushroom Vetus
  • Vetus Typhoon in bench aftdeck for permanent ventilation (Ontwerp instructies SP-N40)
  • Vetus Tom as on 483 (Ontwerp instructies SP-N40)

ventilation ER

  • ER - as Aventura 43 (Ontwerp instructies SP-N40)
  • NO blower (mail 7-11-2012)
  • grill as Aventura 43 (mail 7-11-2012)

fresh water

  • accumulator tank 8l (Cuno 337020)
  • bracket set (Cuno 337021)
  • pump Jabsco Max 4 (Cuno 3368) / Jabsco VSD Sensor Max 14
    • bracket set has provisions for mounting the pump so no separate pump foundation required!
  • boiler 40 lt Cuno 230V + engine connected (as Aventura 43)
  • sink on aftdeck
  • piping - Ø16mm - iFIT by Georg Fischer (full CAD library available on website)

waste water

  • issue - when tank is full the shit exits via breather or makes a pipe burst which drains the shit into the boat - how to avoid?
    • SH: when tanks is full the indicator should give a signal which stops the operation of the toilet flush button, together with an indicator (blinking light) on the flush panel
  • material - plastic
  • tank emptying - pump Jabsco macerator pump type 18590 (Cuno 18590-2092)- will be mounted directly on tank with threaded 1 1/2 connection, so no separate foundation required!
  • tank connections - toilets only
  • 1x grey waste tank 16 lt Whale (in foreship, from aftship will come via pipe into this box) with the following connections:
    • showers
    • wash basins
  • grey waste tank will drain directly overboard
  • galley drains directly overboard
  • no smell filter Belship (Whale) as 483
  • toilets
    • piping - Ø50mm - PVC-C by Georg Fischer (full CAD library available on website)

electrical

  • panels 12V / 24V / 230V as Aventura 43
  • second alternator on engine 12V / 150A
  • NO optional generator (mail 01-11-2012)
  • engine - comes with a relay box which must be mounted nearby

batteries

  • 2x foreship for thruster
  • 2x aftship for thruster

instruments + navigation

  • Raymarine Bi-data
  • navigation lights - no LED

ligthing

  • LED in salon, other spaces normal lamps (but interchangable with LED (Ontwerp instructies SP-N40)
  • switch - wall mounted (mail 02-Oct-12)

70 Interior

materials

  • HPL (mail 03-10-2012, includes price offer)
  • tops - latest idea jan: Wilsonart 13mm (mail 11-28)
  • sole
    • salon Baryfloor 6-6-6 (20kg/m2)
    • salon finish HPL teak and holly (1st) or PVC (2nd)
  • make several color proposals (renderings) based upon HPL (incl. non-wood)
  • hinges and closing devices as 483


sole

  • hatches where required for removing debris in bilge

upholstery

wet cabins

    • HPL, not spraypainted
    • sole - Wilsonart
    • prefab unit, including systems?
  • salon - large flatscreen TV on lift
  • toilet - seat height maximum 490mm (mail (26-11-2012)

appliances

  • NO hood above stofe
  • toilet - SeaLand MasterFlush Electric by Waeco
  • wash basins - Alape glassed steel
  • TV lift - 230V see purchase list ?!? (Ontwerp instructies SP-N40)
  • optional
    • microwave (under sidedeck?)

80 Paint and insulation

  • insulation
    • hull - spray PU
    • decks / superstructure - Kingspan Thermaroof TR26