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'Pure' is the name of new line of yachts, of which the first boat is named 'Nescio'. This first boat will be build for Eeuwe Kooi himself (owner/director KMY).
 
'Pure' is the name of new line of yachts, of which the first boat is named 'Nescio'. This first boat will be build for Eeuwe Kooi himself (owner/director KMY).
  
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==Questions==
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==Scope==
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*General
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*detailed 3D model
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**push button info
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*general detail sheet
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*CNC milling files (for all panel parts, drill holes not included)
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*assembly drawings (with indication for bevels)
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*list of hardware (98 assembly screws 4.5x30)
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*list of appliances
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*list of mouldings ('lijstenstaat')
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*weight brut + net + COG
  
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*Fore cabin
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==Planning==
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**shelf height adjustable?
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*Conform mail Willem Berends of July 16
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*WK 30 Navyk to implement all comments and changes.
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*WK 30 End of the week Navyk will send the draft files for review.
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*WK 32 Bamboo wood will be delivered to KMY for surface preparations.
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*WK 33 Until Wednesday Noon, KMY has the time to review and send some additional remarks.
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*WK 34 All wood material (exl. floor) will be deliverer at CNC works.
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*WK 34 End of this week Navyk will deliver the complete files to KMY.
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*WK 35 CNC will cut all materials en deliver to the KMY.
  
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*Saloon
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==TO DO==
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**lower hinge in FWD cabinet
 
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**back and side cushions will extend beyond top and front?
 
  
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*Galley
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===Parts===
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**fridge ventilation top?
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*one side veneer > add 'top veneer' or 'bottom veneer' to part label? (for milling operator)
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**pillar position?
 
  
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===Issues and mistakes===
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*panel thickness tolerance > larger than 1mm > resulting in many gaps > Kuiper did not deliver sanded/calibrated panels
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*deckhouse
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**lining > window cutouts > offset is made outside instead of inside
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**lining > aft wall (SU-01-09) > window cutout has moved (SU-01-07 is okay)
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===Solid model===
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====General====
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*Toilet outlet > route (?)
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====Sole====
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FINAL
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====Forecabin====
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FINAL
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====Salon====
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FINAL
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====Galley====
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FINAL
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====Bathroom====
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FINAL except for wooden rims upper lockers (to be added)
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====Aft ship====
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FINAL
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====Superstructure====
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FINAL
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====Sole structure====
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*finalize (after approval of KMY)
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====Other files====
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*labels > create excel sheet with codes for each part
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*additional files:
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**Marlan templates
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**Metal parts (?):
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***handrails
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****galley
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****SB > to model
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****PS > to model
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====Overlength====
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*10mm at bulkheads which connect to superstructure
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*5mm at inside contour of base ceiling hull (where it connects to superstructure lining)
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==Navyk remarks for KMY==
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==INFO==
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===General===
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*driver-drill
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**total length including bit > 210mm
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**distance shaft center to top of housing > 36mm
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====hatches and portlights====
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*Deckhatches:
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**Lewmar Size 60 low profile: 39960030
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**Lewmar Size 30 low profile: 39930030
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***[http://www.oceanair.co.uk/marine/products/skyscreen-roller-surface-2#quicktabs-product_tabs=6 Skyscreens]
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*Portligths in superstructure:
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**Lewmar Standard portlight Size 3: [https://www.lewmar.com/products.asp?id=8757&lid=24843 393320200]
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*Portlights in cockpit:
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**Lewmar Standard portlight Size 5: [https://www.lewmar.com/products.asp?id=8757&lid=25083 393520200]
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====hardware====
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*finish > stainless steel
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====lining====
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*V-grooves, every 100mm, parallel to deckline/sheer
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====ceilings====
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*leather panels > mounted with [http://www.fastmount.com Fastmount]
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====entrance doors====
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*door width net standard > 560mm
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*door width net minimum > 500mm
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*gap under door > ?
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*core > plywood ocoume 18mm
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*cover panels > plywood bamboo 7mm
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*hinges?
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*mortise lock?
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*handles?
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*door plates/shields?
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*height doorhandles?
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*door catch?
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*ajar hook?
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====lockers====
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*shelves > mounted with shelf supports (Hettich)
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*FYI > solid corner profiles in furniture plintes will be painted white
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*hinges > Hettich Intermat Soft....
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*drawer runners > Hettich Quadro 30
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*closing device > [https://www.kroon.nl/cgi-bin/shop/scripts/shop.cgi?dep=group&grp=13743 Kroon 372369]
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*shelf supports
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====seats====
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*seat cushion thickness 100mm
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*back vertical
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*seat panel 340mm above sole
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====berths====
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*matrass thickness 100mm
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*bed slats 40 mm from [http://www.enpremiere.com/trucks/specifications.php?lng=gb&PHPSESSID=0a80df387b7f822bd5aaa7fb37d18ca6 Spacerflex]
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===Sole===
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*base > 18mm ocoume, varnished all around
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*finish > chest nut
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*margin boards > width 70mm
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*hatch locking device > see material list
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===Fore Cabin===
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===Salon===
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===Galley===
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*Drawers
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**PDF info: P:\15038 Bestevaer 45 ST Pure\Inbox\70 Interior\Arcitech drawers
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**Hettich Arcitech drawers st.steel > [http://web2.hettich.com/hbh/catalog/Start.do?localeId=en&model=procat]
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*fridge is a [http://www.webasto.com/gb/markets-products/motorhomes/comfort-solutions/refrigeration-solutions/cruise-refrigerators Webasto]
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**CR 85 EL - first choice
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**CR 65 EL - second choice
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**front to be white
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*sink > [http://www.belship.eu/catalogus/#82 Belship 0430331515CS]
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*stove > [http://www.force10.com/gas_gimballed_3burner.html Force 10 F63356]
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**gimbal 30°
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*faucet > [http://www.badkamerwinkel.nl/damixa-willow-keukenkraan-chroom-350000000#product-details Damixa Willow Kitchen Chrome]
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===Bathroom===
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*black water tank > behind toilet, 2 options:
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**[http://www.nuovarade.com/product.php?productId=181&categoryId=30 preferred option (60L)]
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**[http://www.allpa.nl/nl/483171.html second option]
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*glass doors > semi standard product
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*sink > [http://www.belship.eu/catalogus/#84 Belship 043018]
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*faucet > [ http://www.badkamerwinkel.nl/damixa-willow-wastafelkraan-met-klik-waste-chroom-358210000 Damixa Willow Bathroom faucet chrome]
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*showermixer > [http://www.badkamerwinkel.nl/damixa-willow-douchekraan-15-cm-chroom-352000000 Damixa Willow Showermixer chrome]
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*shower head > [http://www.badkamerwinkel.nl/damixa-tube-handdouche-chroom-766640000 Damixa hand shower chrome]
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===Aft cabins===
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*entrance door > rotates inside
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===Deck house===
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===Superstructure===
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*Skyscreen
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**type Roller Surface 2 With Seal
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**orientation is transverse sliding
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==Modeling refereneces==
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===Tolerance===
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*distance to frame flanges 20
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===Lining===
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*deckhouse > offset 62 from inside shell, lining will be glued against Hora windowframes conform ''P169 Detail windows.dwg'' (received June 30)
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===Base ceiling===
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*superstructure
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**offset 58 from inside shell
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**after rebuilding salon tolerance <7 (surface from aft bulkhead to fwd bulkhead)
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**interference with stringers <2, to be solved on board
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==Sheet estimation==
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===transverse grain===
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*17mm single bamboo - 3 sheets - bench fronts SL / galley front / table sides
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*6mm single bamboo - 1 sheet - bench fronts DH
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==Milling==
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*Subcontracted to [[CNCwerk]]
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===Remarks milling===
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*drill holes > not drilled (overlooked, only the crosshairs on no process layer were noticed and removed)
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*panel thickness > varies from 15.3 - 17mm
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==Aluminum==
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*mast bulkhead > bolted? requires hatch in bed
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*mast bulkhead > cutout entrance door + heater hose
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*aft bulkhead > cutout for heater hose
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*galley > pillar
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*bolt connection > create detail
  
 
== People ==
 
== People ==
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*Willem-Jan van der Vegt - engineer (our contactperson)
 
*Willem-Jan van der Vegt - engineer (our contactperson)
 
*Haaie Andringa - foreman carpentry
 
*Haaie Andringa - foreman carpentry
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*Oscar - freelance carpenter
  
 
== Exchange work ==
 
== Exchange work ==
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*integration of heater ducting is not in contract
 
*integration of heater ducting is not in contract
 
*info is not delivered on Monday, June 15 but came partially on June 16 and 17
 
*info is not delivered on Monday, June 15 but came partially on June 16 and 17
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*4 hours for renesting 12mm in smaller sheet (not confirmed by Willem yet)
  
 
== As discussed ==
 
== As discussed ==
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== 01-Fore Cabin ==
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*hatches in bed
 
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*assembly
 
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**drillholes
 
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**notches
 
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*leather ceiling panels
 
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*grooves in lining
 
  
  
 
[[Category: Projects]]
 
[[Category: Projects]]

Latest revision as of 13:54, 30 October 2015

'Pure' is the name of new line of yachts, of which the first boat is named 'Nescio'. This first boat will be build for Eeuwe Kooi himself (owner/director KMY).

Scope[edit]

  • detailed 3D model
  • general detail sheet
  • CNC milling files (for all panel parts, drill holes not included)
  • assembly drawings (with indication for bevels)
  • list of hardware (98 assembly screws 4.5x30)
  • list of appliances
  • list of mouldings ('lijstenstaat')
  • weight brut + net + COG

Planning[edit]

  • Conform mail Willem Berends of July 16
  • WK 30 Navyk to implement all comments and changes.
  • WK 30 End of the week Navyk will send the draft files for review.
  • WK 32 Bamboo wood will be delivered to KMY for surface preparations.
  • WK 33 Until Wednesday Noon, KMY has the time to review and send some additional remarks.
  • WK 34 All wood material (exl. floor) will be deliverer at CNC works.
  • WK 34 End of this week Navyk will deliver the complete files to KMY.
  • WK 35 CNC will cut all materials en deliver to the KMY.

TO DO[edit]

Parts[edit]

  • one side veneer > add 'top veneer' or 'bottom veneer' to part label? (for milling operator)

Issues and mistakes[edit]

  • panel thickness tolerance > larger than 1mm > resulting in many gaps > Kuiper did not deliver sanded/calibrated panels
  • deckhouse
    • lining > window cutouts > offset is made outside instead of inside
    • lining > aft wall (SU-01-09) > window cutout has moved (SU-01-07 is okay)

Solid model[edit]

General[edit]

  • Toilet outlet > route (?)

Sole[edit]

FINAL

Forecabin[edit]

FINAL

Salon[edit]

FINAL

Galley[edit]

FINAL

Bathroom[edit]

FINAL except for wooden rims upper lockers (to be added)

Aft ship[edit]

FINAL

Superstructure[edit]

FINAL

Sole structure[edit]

  • finalize (after approval of KMY)

Other files[edit]

  • labels > create excel sheet with codes for each part
  • additional files:
    • Marlan templates
    • Metal parts (?):
      • handrails
        • galley
        • SB > to model
        • PS > to model

Overlength[edit]

  • 10mm at bulkheads which connect to superstructure
  • 5mm at inside contour of base ceiling hull (where it connects to superstructure lining)

Navyk remarks for KMY[edit]

INFO[edit]

General[edit]

  • driver-drill
    • total length including bit > 210mm
    • distance shaft center to top of housing > 36mm

hatches and portlights[edit]

  • Deckhatches:
    • Lewmar Size 60 low profile: 39960030
    • Lewmar Size 30 low profile: 39930030
  • Portligths in superstructure:
  • Portlights in cockpit:

hardware[edit]

  • finish > stainless steel

lining[edit]

  • V-grooves, every 100mm, parallel to deckline/sheer

ceilings[edit]

entrance doors[edit]

  • door width net standard > 560mm
  • door width net minimum > 500mm
  • gap under door > ?
  • core > plywood ocoume 18mm
  • cover panels > plywood bamboo 7mm
  • hinges?
  • mortise lock?
  • handles?
  • door plates/shields?
  • height doorhandles?
  • door catch?
  • ajar hook?

lockers[edit]

  • shelves > mounted with shelf supports (Hettich)
  • FYI > solid corner profiles in furniture plintes will be painted white
  • hinges > Hettich Intermat Soft....
  • drawer runners > Hettich Quadro 30
  • closing device > Kroon 372369
  • shelf supports

seats[edit]

  • seat cushion thickness 100mm
  • back vertical
  • seat panel 340mm above sole

berths[edit]

  • matrass thickness 100mm
  • bed slats 40 mm from Spacerflex

Sole[edit]

  • base > 18mm ocoume, varnished all around
  • finish > chest nut
  • margin boards > width 70mm
  • hatch locking device > see material list

Fore Cabin[edit]

Salon[edit]

Galley[edit]

Bathroom[edit]

Aft cabins[edit]

  • entrance door > rotates inside

Deck house[edit]

Superstructure[edit]

  • Skyscreen
    • type Roller Surface 2 With Seal
    • orientation is transverse sliding

Modeling refereneces[edit]

Tolerance[edit]

  • distance to frame flanges 20

Lining[edit]

  • deckhouse > offset 62 from inside shell, lining will be glued against Hora windowframes conform P169 Detail windows.dwg (received June 30)

Base ceiling[edit]

  • superstructure
    • offset 58 from inside shell
    • after rebuilding salon tolerance <7 (surface from aft bulkhead to fwd bulkhead)
    • interference with stringers <2, to be solved on board

Sheet estimation[edit]

transverse grain[edit]

  • 17mm single bamboo - 3 sheets - bench fronts SL / galley front / table sides
  • 6mm single bamboo - 1 sheet - bench fronts DH

Milling[edit]

Remarks milling[edit]

  • drill holes > not drilled (overlooked, only the crosshairs on no process layer were noticed and removed)
  • panel thickness > varies from 15.3 - 17mm

Aluminum[edit]

  • mast bulkhead > bolted? requires hatch in bed
  • mast bulkhead > cutout entrance door + heater hose
  • aft bulkhead > cutout for heater hose
  • galley > pillar
  • bolt connection > create detail

People[edit]

  • Eeuwe Kooi - director/owner (not directly involved)
  • Willem Berends - chain manger (responsible for contract)
  • Willem-Jan van der Vegt - engineer (our contactperson)
  • Haaie Andringa - foreman carpentry
  • Oscar - freelance carpenter

Exchange work[edit]

  • KMY negotiated €1.000 discount for delivering a 3D model of interior - send file is only a block file
  • integration of heater ducting is not in contract
  • info is not delivered on Monday, June 15 but came partially on June 16 and 17
  • 4 hours for renesting 12mm in smaller sheet (not confirmed by Willem yet)

As discussed[edit]

July 1, 2015[edit]

  • furniture doors - 17mm is OK
  • entrance hatch recess box - PUR insulated, put plywood panel in front
  • stair steps solid wood
  • cockpit sole - covered with cork 9mm
  • lining - leather panels are canceled
  • porthole boxes - yard makes tube, out of our delivery

June 16, 2015[edit]

  • black water tank - to be determined by Navyk, volume around 50 liter, position SB behind toilet

June 11,2015[edit]

  • tolerances
    • vertical:
      • sole to supporting structure - 0mm
      • ceiling to structure - 0mm
    • horizontal
      • clearance from inner frame contour - 20mm (space between frames is reserved for systems)
  • insulation type is PUR
  • grain orientation will be vertical
  • sole supports are alu tube 50x30x?
  • cabinet interiors to be white
  • KMY workshop facilities:
    • no veneer press
    • edge band machine for straight edges
    • lamello machine
    • round router bits R6, R8, R10, R12
  • Navyk will route the ducting for airheating through the interior
  • Navyk is free to use their own material naming
  • Navyk will give a price offer for the aluminium sole supports

Structure model - modifications![edit]

  • Forepeak bulkhead - stiffeners will be on aft side (cabin side)
  • Pilothouse - between the windows will be a vertical T-profile with a web of 50x6 and a flange of 50x8
  • Entrance door forecabin - to be determined by Navyk, it will be a joinery door, not an aluminum door
  • sole structure - to be determined, Navyk will make a price offer for this
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