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−	'Pure' is the name of new line of yachts, of which the first boat is named 'Nescio'. This first boat will be build for Eeuwe Kooi himself (owner/director KMY).	+	Jongedame is the second boat from the new 'Pure' line of yachts.
	==Scope==		==Scope==
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	===Parts===		===Parts===
	*		*
−		+	===Material===
		+	*can we use larger sheet dimensions?
	===Solid model===		===Solid model===
	====General====		====General====
		+	*sliding doors lockers > catchers
		+	*replace solid round corners
	====Sole====		====Sole====
−		+	Base sole primary model done
	====Forecabin====		====Forecabin====
		+	*entrance door > access carriages + stoppers (door removal)
		+	*entrance door > shorten top sidee
		+	*shelf locker > finger catch, position carriages
		+	*bulkhead > extend topside, ceiling stops
	====Salon====		====Salon====
−
	====Galley====		====Galley====
−		+	*drawers (including waste bin) > add closing device
		+	*waste bin > closure for smells
		+	*doors > add closing device
	====Bathroom====		====Bathroom====
−		+	*bulkhead saloon > extend topside, ceiling stops
		+	*cabinet doors > fingerhole + catch
		+	*cabinet doors > hinges
	====Aft ship====		====Aft ship====
−		+	*entrance > double check model with KMY
		+	*air heating > add hose penetrations to panels
	====Superstructure====		====Superstructure====
		+	*lining > move inside with 10mm
		+	*hatches > basepanels 17mm with cork 4mm and edgeband 2mm
		+	*portlights > basepanels with 4mm cork against aluminum shell
		+	*skyscreens > add to salon and fore cabin
		+	*entrance > narrow ceiling cutout conform latest construction model
		+	*finish ceiling > remove the narrow strip at exterior contour and extend ceiling panels
		+	*base ceiling + hatch rings > make planar at CL, width as hatch rings
		+	*base + finish ceiling > everlength 20mm at aft side, at forward end of deckhouse
		+	*deckhouse > lining > shorten top edge, flush with topside of base ceiling, delete cleat
		+	*deckhouse > ceiling > adjust in way of entrance
		+	*deckhouse > lining > mount on basewood, increase window cutouts to 3mm offset from window, add rings (I will ask detail), basewood NOT in our delivery
		+	*baseceiling > mast bulkhead > stop ceiling, continue bulkheads (bathroom + fore cabin)
		+	====Basewood hull====
		+	*portlights > basepanels with 4mm cork
	====Sole structure====		====Sole structure====
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	==Navyk remarks for KMY==		==Navyk remarks for KMY==
	====General====		====General====
−	*push button > knob can be rotated 90° or 180°?	+
−	*heating	+	====Sole structure====
−	**outlets > HIP?	+	*table mounting?
−	**accesoires?	+
		+	====Fore cabin ====
		+
		+	====Bathroom====
		+	*upper locker doors > no radius at corners? handles?
		+	*upper locker shelf rims
		+
		+	====Galley====
		+	*watermixer
		+	*safe
		+	*access fridge?
		+
		+	====Salon====
		+
		+	====Aft ship====
		+	*roller blinds > in model?
	==INFO==		==INFO==
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	**total length including bit > 210mm		**total length including bit > 210mm
	**distance shaft center to top of housing > 36mm		**distance shaft center to top of housing > 36mm
		+	*NO graphandles
		+	*spec 500 'bars for hatches' > NOT in scope Navyk
	====hatches and portlights====		====hatches and portlights====
	*Deckhatches:		*Deckhatches:
	**Lewmar Size 60 low profile: 39960030		**Lewmar Size 60 low profile: 39960030
−	**Lewmar Size 30 low profile: 39930030
	***[http://www.oceanair.co.uk/marine/products/skyscreen-roller-surface-2#quicktabs-product_tabs=6 Skyscreens]		***[http://www.oceanair.co.uk/marine/products/skyscreen-roller-surface-2#quicktabs-product_tabs=6 Skyscreens]
	*Portligths in superstructure:		*Portligths in superstructure:
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	*Portlights in cockpit:		*Portlights in cockpit:
	**Lewmar Standard portlight Size 5: [https://www.lewmar.com/products.asp?id=8757&lid=25083 393520200]		**Lewmar Standard portlight Size 5: [https://www.lewmar.com/products.asp?id=8757&lid=25083 393520200]
		+
	====hardware====		====hardware====
−	*finish > stainless steel	+
		+	====walls====
		+	*panels > 17-HPH-15 RAL 9010
		+	*round corners > solid teak, varnished
	====lining====		====lining====
−	*V-grooves, every 100mm, parallel to deckline/sheer	+	*panels > 12-HPH-10 RAL 9010
		+	*knuckles > permitted, minimum width 300
	====ceilings====		====ceilings====
−	*leather panels > mounted with [http://www.fastmount.com Fastmount]	+	*as Nescio/Pure (15038)
		+	*lighting > EB12/EB/22?flex-05
	====entrance doors====		====entrance doors====
−	*door width net standard > 560mm	+	*panels > RAL 9010
−	*door width net minimum > 500mm	+	*sliding door system > [http://www.henderson.nl/sliding_door_gear_literature.php?lit_lang=en&category=Domestic&config=Straight%20Sliding&range=Room%20Dividers&id=126&product_id= Husky 100 aluminum]
−	*gap under door > ?	+	*hinges > Kroon 353241
−	*core > plywood ocoume 18mm	+	*mortise lock > Kroon 735831
−	*cover panels > plywood bamboo 7mm	+	*handles > bathroom - Foresti & Suardi 480A (Kroon S355945)
−	*hinges?	+	*door lock button > bathroom - Foresti & Suardi 481C (Kroon S352419)
−	*mortise lock?
−	*handles?
−	*door plates/shields?
	*height doorhandles?		*height doorhandles?
−	*door catch?	+	*sliding door catch?
−	*ajar hook?
	====lockers====		====lockers====
−	*shelves > mounted with shelf supports (Hettich)	+	*panels > 12-HPH-10 RAL 9010 and 17-HPH-15 RAL 9010
−	*FYI > solid corner profiles in furniture plintes will be painted white	+	*round corners > plywood, teak veneered
−	*hinges > Hettich Intermat Soft....	+	*solid profiles > teak, varnished
−	*drawer runners > Hettich Quadro 30	+	*galley > lower cabinets > Alu HPL (Alu-poplar-Alu)
−	*closing device > [https://www.kroon.nl/cgi-bin/shop/scripts/shop.cgi?dep=group&grp=13743 Kroon 372369]	+	*galley > counter top > Marlan 12mm, color tbd
−	*shelf supports	+	*shelves > mounted with shelf supports Kroon 342354 (Hettich 0053012)
		+	*sliding door system > [http://www.henderson.nl/sliding_door_gear_literature.php?lit_lang=en&category=Domestic&config=Straight%20Sliding&range=Room%20Dividers&id=123&product_id= Husky 50]
		+	*hinges > Hettich Intermat Soft 9943 > Kroon 356850 (Hettich 1031071)
		+	*closing device > Kroon 374965
		+	*drawers > HPL white
		+	*securing ledge > aluminum panel 5mm,  make grooves fitting 5mm Al dividers
		+	*door and drawer grips > finish > edge band
		+	*ventilation sleeves > finish > paint
	====seats====		====seats====
−	*seat cushion thickness 100mm	+	*seat cushion thickness 100
−	*back vertical	+	*back cushion thickness 80 (deck house)
−	*seat panel 340mm above sole
	====berths====		====berths====
−	*matrass thickness 100mm	+	*mattress > thickness 120mm
−	*bed slats 40 mm from [http://www.enpremiere.com/trucks/specifications.php?lng=gb&PHPSESSID=0a80df387b7f822bd5aaa7fb37d18ca6 Spacerflex]	+	*ventilation > holes in bed panel
	===Sole===		===Sole===
	*base > 18mm ocoume, varnished all around		*base > 18mm ocoume, varnished all around
−	*finish > chest nut	+	*finish > teak and holly 60mm > possible Bruynzeel Decora Sole Flooring '''T.B.D.'''
−	*margin boards > width 70mm	+	*margin boards > no margin boards
−	*hatch locking device > see material list	+	*hatch locking device > Southco E5-70-1627-701 + Southco E3-13-4
		+	*sole supports > alu tubing 50x30
	===Fore Cabin===		===Fore Cabin===
		+	*bed storage > access from top & side
	===Salon===		===Salon===
		+	*folding table
		+	**veneered top
		+	**aluminium pillars diameter 120-180
		+	**10mm teak margin around table top
		+	**hardware
		+	*NO e-panel
		+	*Safe > in SB bench under sole > integrated > yard made of aluminium 5mm (sketch will follow)
	===Galley===		===Galley===
−	*Drawers	+
−	**PDF info: P:\15038 Bestevaer 45 ST Pure\Inbox\70 Interior\Arcitech drawers	+	*Fridge > [http://www.indelwebastomarine.com/int/products/fridges-freezers/built-in-boxes/built-in-box-bi-75/ Frigomatic BI75] ''WATERCOOLED''
−	**Hettich Arcitech drawers st.steel > [http://web2.hettich.com/hbh/catalog/Start.do?localeId=en&model=procat]	+	*Freezer > [http://www.indelwebastomarine.com/int/products/fridges-freezers/built-in-boxes/ Frigomatic BI53] > is it possible to place it under one of the three beds? ''AIRCOOLED''
−	*fridge is a [http://www.webasto.com/gb/markets-products/motorhomes/comfort-solutions/refrigeration-solutions/cruise-refrigerators Webasto]	+	*Sink > [http://www.exalto.com/nl-nl/dubbele-wasbak-rechthoekig-rvs-600x320mm-70.01.45 Exalto 70.01.45]
−	**CR 85 EL - first choice	+	*Stove > Force 10 type (TECHNAUTIC 596122) [http://www.dekkerwatersport.nl/pdf/rocaset.pdf Force 10 TECHNAUTIC 596122]
−	**CR 65 EL - second choice	+	*Foot pump > [http://www.jachtbouwloedeman.nl/watersportwinkel/water-tanksystemen/drinkwater-systemen/whale-gusher-galley-mk3-whale-gusher-galley-mk3-032610/032610/2450/ Belship 032610]
−	**front to be white	+	*Faucet >
−	*sink > [http://www.belship.eu/catalogus/#82 Belship 0430331515CS]	+	**fresh water T.B.D.
−	*stove > [http://www.force10.com/gas_gimballed_3burner.html Force 10 F63356]	+	**salt water T.B.D.
−	**gimbal 30°
−	*faucet > [http://www.badkamerwinkel.nl/damixa-willow-keukenkraan-chroom-350000000#product-details Damixa Willow Kitchen Chrome]
	===Bathroom===		===Bathroom===
−	*black water tank > behind toilet, 2 options:	+	*no sink
−	**[http://www.nuovarade.com/product.php?productId=181&categoryId=30 preferred option (60L)]	+	*shower mixer > T.B.D.
−	**[http://www.allpa.nl/nl/483171.html second option]	+	*shower head > T.B.D., can be integrated in ceiling if needed (for head room)
−	*glass doors > semi standard product	+	*drain > directly in floor
−	*sink > [http://www.belship.eu/catalogus/#84 Belship 043018]	+	*mirror > at entrance door
−	*faucet > [ http://www.badkamerwinkel.nl/damixa-willow-wastafelkraan-met-klik-waste-chroom-358210000 Damixa Willow Bathroom faucet chrome]	+	*black water tank > [http://www.vetus.com/all-purpose-tank-61l.html Vetus ATANK 061] > position tbd by Navyk
−	*showermixer > [http://www.badkamerwinkel.nl/damixa-willow-douchekraan-15-cm-chroom-352000000 Damixa Willow Showermixer chrome]
−	*shower head > [http://www.badkamerwinkel.nl/damixa-tube-handdouche-chroom-766640000 Damixa hand shower chrome]
	===Aft cabins===		===Aft cabins===
−	*entrance door > rotates inside	+	*entrance door > sliding door system Hasky 100
		+	*boiler under bed > [http://www.indelwebastomarine.com/int/products/isotemp-water-heaters/basic/ Webasto Basic 50] > '''CANCELED (will be outside interior)'''
	===Deck house===		===Deck house===
		+	*aft area of deck house as Nescio/Pure (pillar boxes)
		+	*chart tables > folding footrests by KMY
		+	*chart tables > border of alu
	===Superstructure===		===Superstructure===
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	**type Roller Surface 2 With Seal		**type Roller Surface 2 With Seal
	**orientation is transverse sliding		**orientation is transverse sliding
		+
		+	===Systems===
		+	====HVAC====
		+	*KMY will provide drawing
		+
		+	====Fire fighting====
		+	*KMY will provide model and quantity
		+
		+	====Electrical system====
		+	*Battery > MASTERVOLT MLI Ultra 12/5000 art. nr. 66015000
		+	*Sockets > Jung stainless steel mat ES 1520 NKI
		+
		+	====Safety====
		+	*EPIRB MT403
		+	**location in recess next to deckhouse entrance
	==Modeling refereneces==		==Modeling refereneces==
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	==Sheet estimation==		==Sheet estimation==
−	===transverse grain===
−	*17mm single bamboo - 3 sheets - bench fronts SL / galley front / table sides
−	*6mm single bamboo - 1 sheet - bench fronts DH
−
	==Milling==		==Milling==
	*Subcontracted to [[CNCwerk]]		*Subcontracted to [[CNCwerk]]
	==Aluminum==		==Aluminum==
−	*mast bulkhead > bolted? requires hatch in bed
	*mast bulkhead > cutout entrance door + heater hose		*mast bulkhead > cutout entrance door + heater hose
	*aft bulkhead > cutout for heater hose		*aft bulkhead > cutout for heater hose
−	*galley > pillar
	*bolt connection > create detail		*bolt connection > create detail
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	== Exchange work ==		== Exchange work ==
−	*KMY negotiated €1.000 discount for delivering a 3D model of interior - send file is only a block file
−	*integration of heater ducting is not in contract
−	*info is not delivered on Monday, June 15 but came partially on June 16 and 17
	== As discussed ==		== As discussed ==
−	=== July 1, 2015 ===
−	*furniture doors - 17mm is OK
−	*entrance hatch recess box - PUR insulated, put plywood panel in front
−	*stair steps solid wood
−	*cockpit sole - covered with cork 9mm
−	*lining - leather panels are canceled
−	*porthole boxes - yard makes tube, out of our delivery
−
−	=== June 16, 2015 ===
−	*black water tank - to be determined by Navyk, volume around 50 liter, position SB behind toilet
−	=== June 11,2015 ===
−	*tolerances
−	**vertical:
−	***sole to supporting structure - 0mm
−	***ceiling to structure - 0mm
−	**horizontal
−	***clearance from inner frame contour - 20mm (space between frames is reserved for systems)
−	*insulation type is PUR
−	*grain orientation will be vertical
−	*sole supports are alu tube 50x30x?
−	*cabinet interiors to be white
−	*KMY workshop facilities:
−	**no veneer press
−	**edge band machine for straight edges
−	**lamello machine
−	**round router bits R6, R8, R10, R12
−	*Navyk will route the ducting for airheating through the interior
−	*Navyk is free to use their own material naming
−	*Navyk will give a price offer for the aluminium sole supports
	== Structure model - modifications! ==		== Structure model - modifications! ==
−	*Forepeak bulkhead - stiffeners will be on aft side (cabin side)
−	*Pilothouse - between the windows will be a vertical T-profile with a web of 50x6 and a flange of 50x8
−	*Entrance door forecabin - to be determined by Navyk, it will be a joinery door, not an aluminum door
−	*sole structure - to be determined, Navyk will make a price offer for this
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Latest revision as of 15:24, 17 December 2015

Jongedame is the second boat from the new 'Pure' line of yachts.

Scope[edit]

• detailed 3D model
• general detail sheet
• CNC milling files (for all panel parts, drill holes not included)
• assembly drawings (with indication for bevels & edgeband)
• list of hardware & appliances
• weight brut + net + COG

Planning[edit]

• Delivery W47

TO DO[edit]

Parts[edit]

Material[edit]

• can we use larger sheet dimensions?

Solid model[edit]

General[edit]

• sliding doors lockers > catchers
• replace solid round corners

Sole[edit]

Base sole primary model done

Forecabin[edit]

• entrance door > access carriages + stoppers (door removal)
• entrance door > shorten top sidee
• shelf locker > finger catch, position carriages
• bulkhead > extend topside, ceiling stops

Salon[edit]

Galley[edit]

• drawers (including waste bin) > add closing device
• waste bin > closure for smells
• doors > add closing device

Bathroom[edit]

• bulkhead saloon > extend topside, ceiling stops
• cabinet doors > fingerhole + catch
• cabinet doors > hinges

Aft ship[edit]

• entrance > double check model with KMY
• air heating > add hose penetrations to panels

Superstructure[edit]

• lining > move inside with 10mm
• hatches > basepanels 17mm with cork 4mm and edgeband 2mm
• portlights > basepanels with 4mm cork against aluminum shell
• skyscreens > add to salon and fore cabin
• entrance > narrow ceiling cutout conform latest construction model
• finish ceiling > remove the narrow strip at exterior contour and extend ceiling panels
• base ceiling + hatch rings > make planar at CL, width as hatch rings
• base + finish ceiling > everlength 20mm at aft side, at forward end of deckhouse
• deckhouse > lining > shorten top edge, flush with topside of base ceiling, delete cleat
• deckhouse > ceiling > adjust in way of entrance
• deckhouse > lining > mount on basewood, increase window cutouts to 3mm offset from window, add rings (I will ask detail), basewood NOT in our delivery
• baseceiling > mast bulkhead > stop ceiling, continue bulkheads (bathroom + fore cabin)

Basewood hull[edit]

• portlights > basepanels with 4mm cork

Sole structure[edit]

Other files[edit]

Overlength[edit]

Navyk remarks for KMY[edit]

General[edit]

Sole structure[edit]

• table mounting?

Fore cabin[edit]

Bathroom[edit]

• upper locker doors > no radius at corners? handles?
• upper locker shelf rims

Galley[edit]

• watermixer
• safe
• access fridge?

Salon[edit]

Aft ship[edit]

• roller blinds > in model?

INFO[edit]

General[edit]

• driver-drill
  • total length including bit > 210mm
  • distance shaft center to top of housing > 36mm
• NO graphandles
• spec 500 'bars for hatches' > NOT in scope Navyk

hatches and portlights[edit]

• Deckhatches:
  • Lewmar Size 60 low profile: 39960030
    • Skyscreens
• Portligths in superstructure:
  • Lewmar Standard portlight Size 3: 393320200
• Portlights in cockpit:
  • Lewmar Standard portlight Size 5: 393520200

hardware[edit]

walls[edit]

• panels > 17-HPH-15 RAL 9010
• round corners > solid teak, varnished

lining[edit]

• panels > 12-HPH-10 RAL 9010
• knuckles > permitted, minimum width 300

ceilings[edit]

• as Nescio/Pure (15038)
• lighting > EB12/EB/22?flex-05

entrance doors[edit]

• panels > RAL 9010
• sliding door system > Husky 100 aluminum
• hinges > Kroon 353241
• mortise lock > Kroon 735831
• handles > bathroom - Foresti & Suardi 480A (Kroon S355945)
• door lock button > bathroom - Foresti & Suardi 481C (Kroon S352419)
• height doorhandles?
• sliding door catch?

lockers[edit]

• panels > 12-HPH-10 RAL 9010 and 17-HPH-15 RAL 9010
• round corners > plywood, teak veneered
• solid profiles > teak, varnished
• galley > lower cabinets > Alu HPL (Alu-poplar-Alu)
• galley > counter top > Marlan 12mm, color tbd
• shelves > mounted with shelf supports Kroon 342354 (Hettich 0053012)
• sliding door system > Husky 50
• hinges > Hettich Intermat Soft 9943 > Kroon 356850 (Hettich 1031071)
• closing device > Kroon 374965
• drawers > HPL white
• securing ledge > aluminum panel 5mm, make grooves fitting 5mm Al dividers
• door and drawer grips > finish > edge band
• ventilation sleeves > finish > paint

seats[edit]

• seat cushion thickness 100
• back cushion thickness 80 (deck house)

berths[edit]

• mattress > thickness 120mm
• ventilation > holes in bed panel

Sole[edit]

• base > 18mm ocoume, varnished all around
• finish > teak and holly 60mm > possible Bruynzeel Decora Sole Flooring T.B.D.
• margin boards > no margin boards
• hatch locking device > Southco E5-70-1627-701 + Southco E3-13-4
• sole supports > alu tubing 50x30

Fore Cabin[edit]

• bed storage > access from top & side

Salon[edit]

• folding table
  • veneered top
  • aluminium pillars diameter 120-180
  • 10mm teak margin around table top
  • hardware
• NO e-panel
• Safe > in SB bench under sole > integrated > yard made of aluminium 5mm (sketch will follow)

Galley[edit]

• Fridge > Frigomatic BI75 WATERCOOLED
• Freezer > Frigomatic BI53 > is it possible to place it under one of the three beds? AIRCOOLED
• Sink > Exalto 70.01.45
• Stove > Force 10 type (TECHNAUTIC 596122) Force 10 TECHNAUTIC 596122
• Foot pump > Belship 032610
• Faucet >
  • fresh water T.B.D.
  • salt water T.B.D.

Bathroom[edit]

• no sink
• shower mixer > T.B.D.
• shower head > T.B.D., can be integrated in ceiling if needed (for head room)
• drain > directly in floor
• mirror > at entrance door
• black water tank > Vetus ATANK 061 > position tbd by Navyk

Aft cabins[edit]

• entrance door > sliding door system Hasky 100
• boiler under bed > Webasto Basic 50 > CANCELED (will be outside interior)

Deck house[edit]

• aft area of deck house as Nescio/Pure (pillar boxes)
• chart tables > folding footrests by KMY
• chart tables > border of alu

Superstructure[edit]

• Skyscreen
  • type Roller Surface 2 With Seal
  • orientation is transverse sliding

Systems[edit]

HVAC[edit]

• KMY will provide drawing

Fire fighting[edit]

• KMY will provide model and quantity

Electrical system[edit]

• Battery > MASTERVOLT MLI Ultra 12/5000 art. nr. 66015000
• Sockets > Jung stainless steel mat ES 1520 NKI

Safety[edit]

• EPIRB MT403
  • location in recess next to deckhouse entrance

Modeling refereneces[edit]

Tolerance[edit]

• distance to frame flanges 20

Lining[edit]

• deckhouse > offset 62 from inside shell, lining will be glued against Hora windowframes conform P169 Detail windows.dwg (received June 30)

Base ceiling[edit]

• superstructure
  • offset 58 from inside shell
  • after rebuilding salon tolerance <7 (surface from aft bulkhead to fwd bulkhead)
  • interference with stringers <2, to be solved on board

Sheet estimation[edit]

Milling[edit]

• Subcontracted to CNCwerk

Aluminum[edit]

• mast bulkhead > cutout entrance door + heater hose
• aft bulkhead > cutout for heater hose
• bolt connection > create detail

People[edit]

• Eeuwe Kooi - director/owner (not directly involved)
• Willem Berends - chain manger (responsible for contract)
• Willem-Jan van der Vegt - engineer (our contactperson)
• Haaie Andringa - foreman carpentry

Exchange work[edit]

As discussed[edit]

Structure model - modifications![edit]