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	===Parts===		===Parts===
	*		*
−		+	===Material===
		+	*can we use larger sheet dimensions?
	===Solid model===		===Solid model===
	====General====		====General====
−	*sockets - positioned, only waiting dose diameter for panel cutouts	+	*sliding doors lockers > catchers
−	*sliding doors lockers > stoppers/catchers	+	*replace solid round corners
	====Sole====		====Sole====
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	====Forecabin====		====Forecabin====
−	*entrance door > rail removal/stopper	+	*entrance door > access carriages + stoppers (door removal)
−	*upper locker > vent grill	+	*entrance door > shorten top sidee
−		+	*shelf locker > finger catch, position carriages
		+	*bulkhead > extend topside, ceiling stops
	====Salon====		====Salon====
−	*Lining > '''Done'''
	====Galley====		====Galley====
−		+	*drawers (including waste bin) > add closing device
		+	*waste bin > closure for smells
		+	*doors > add closing device
	====Bathroom====		====Bathroom====
−	*Curtain rod (round?)	+	*bulkhead saloon > extend topside, ceiling stops
−	*Door frame > inside rim to direct water down	+	*cabinet doors > fingerhole + catch
−	*Door > mirror on inside	+	*cabinet doors > hinges
−	*Drain gutter
−	*Removable sole
	====Aft ship====		====Aft ship====
−	*bed bottoms > vent holes	+	*entrance > double check model with KMY
−	*PS bed > holes for heating hose - '''Done'''	+	*air heating > add hose penetrations to panels
	====Superstructure====		====Superstructure====
−	*hatches > basepanels with cork and edgeband	+	*lining > move inside with 10mm
−	*portlights > basepanels with cork and edgeband	+	*hatches > basepanels 17mm with cork 4mm and edgeband 2mm
		+	*portlights > basepanels with 4mm cork against aluminum shell
		+	*skyscreens > add to salon and fore cabin
		+	*entrance > narrow ceiling cutout conform latest construction model
		+	*finish ceiling > remove the narrow strip at exterior contour and extend ceiling panels
		+	*base ceiling + hatch rings > make planar at CL, width as hatch rings
		+	*base + finish ceiling > everlength 20mm at aft side, at forward end of deckhouse
		+	*deckhouse > lining > shorten top edge, flush with topside of base ceiling, delete cleat
		+	*deckhouse > ceiling > adjust in way of entrance
		+	*deckhouse > lining > mount on basewood, increase window cutouts to 3mm offset from window, add rings (I will ask detail), basewood NOT in our delivery
		+	*baseceiling > mast bulkhead > stop ceiling, continue bulkheads (bathroom + fore cabin)
		+
		+	====Basewood hull====
		+	*portlights > basepanels with 4mm cork
	====Sole structure====		====Sole structure====
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	==Navyk remarks for KMY==		==Navyk remarks for KMY==
	====General====		====General====
−	*'handles' in doors and drawers > edge finish?
−	*500 > bars for hatches? (1x salon (fixed), 1x owner cabin (removable))
−	*711 > fire extinguishers?
−	=====Fore cabin =====	+	====Sole structure====
−	*sliding door > access rail system	+	*table mounting?
−	*aft bulkhead > access bhd mounting down
−	*high locker > cancel hatches in back (mount bhd before locker)
−	=====Bathroom=====	+	====Fore cabin ====
		+
		+	====Bathroom====
	*upper locker doors > no radius at corners? handles?		*upper locker doors > no radius at corners? handles?
−	*showermixer and head
−	*check connections waste water tank
	*upper locker shelf rims		*upper locker shelf rims
−	=====Galley=====	+	====Galley====
	*watermixer		*watermixer
	*safe		*safe
	*access fridge?		*access fridge?
−	=====Salon=====	+	====Salon====
−	*grap handles by KMY?
−	*NO e-panel
−	=====Aft ship=====	+	====Aft ship====
−	*aft beds > shelf above foot end canceled because of raised deck house seat panel	+	*roller blinds > in model?
−	*aft beds > vent holes bottoms
−	*deck house > hatches aft wall canceled > if required for welding access then add cushion?
−	*chart tables > border of alu or wood?
−	*chart tables > folding footrests?
	==INFO==		==INFO==
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	**total length including bit > 210mm		**total length including bit > 210mm
	**distance shaft center to top of housing > 36mm		**distance shaft center to top of housing > 36mm
		+	*NO graphandles
		+	*spec 500 'bars for hatches' > NOT in scope Navyk
	====hatches and portlights====		====hatches and portlights====
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	====lockers====		====lockers====
	*panels > 12-HPH-10 RAL 9010 and 17-HPH-15 RAL 9010		*panels > 12-HPH-10 RAL 9010 and 17-HPH-15 RAL 9010
−	*round corners > solid teak, varnished	+	*round corners > plywood, teak veneered
	*solid profiles > teak, varnished		*solid profiles > teak, varnished
−	*galley > lower cabinets > Alu HPL	+	*galley > lower cabinets > Alu HPL (Alu-poplar-Alu)
	*galley > counter top > Marlan 12mm, color tbd		*galley > counter top > Marlan 12mm, color tbd
	*shelves > mounted with shelf supports Kroon 342354 (Hettich 0053012)		*shelves > mounted with shelf supports Kroon 342354 (Hettich 0053012)
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	*drawers > HPL white		*drawers > HPL white
	*securing ledge > aluminum panel 5mm,  make grooves fitting 5mm Al dividers		*securing ledge > aluminum panel 5mm,  make grooves fitting 5mm Al dividers
		+	*door and drawer grips > finish > edge band
		+	*ventilation sleeves > finish > paint
	====seats====		====seats====
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	**10mm teak margin around table top		**10mm teak margin around table top
	**hardware		**hardware
		+	*NO e-panel
		+	*Safe > in SB bench under sole > integrated > yard made of aluminium 5mm (sketch will follow)
	===Galley===		===Galley===
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	**fresh water T.B.D.		**fresh water T.B.D.
	**salt water T.B.D.		**salt water T.B.D.
−	*Safe > integrated > yard made of aluminium 5mm (sketch will follow)
	===Bathroom===		===Bathroom===
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	===Deck house===		===Deck house===
	*aft area of deck house as Nescio/Pure (pillar boxes)		*aft area of deck house as Nescio/Pure (pillar boxes)
−	*detailed metal construction for 'laptop tables' aft PS&SB	+	*chart tables > folding footrests by KMY
−	*hardware folding footrest aft PS&SB - T.B.D.	+	*chart tables > border of alu
	===Superstructure===		===Superstructure===

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Latest revision as of 15:24, 17 December 2015

Jongedame is the second boat from the new 'Pure' line of yachts.

Scope[edit]

• detailed 3D model
• general detail sheet
• CNC milling files (for all panel parts, drill holes not included)
• assembly drawings (with indication for bevels & edgeband)
• list of hardware & appliances
• weight brut + net + COG

Planning[edit]

• Delivery W47

TO DO[edit]

Parts[edit]

Material[edit]

• can we use larger sheet dimensions?

Solid model[edit]

General[edit]

• sliding doors lockers > catchers
• replace solid round corners

Sole[edit]

Base sole primary model done

Forecabin[edit]

• entrance door > access carriages + stoppers (door removal)
• entrance door > shorten top sidee
• shelf locker > finger catch, position carriages
• bulkhead > extend topside, ceiling stops

Salon[edit]

Galley[edit]

• drawers (including waste bin) > add closing device
• waste bin > closure for smells
• doors > add closing device

Bathroom[edit]

• bulkhead saloon > extend topside, ceiling stops
• cabinet doors > fingerhole + catch
• cabinet doors > hinges

Aft ship[edit]

• entrance > double check model with KMY
• air heating > add hose penetrations to panels

Superstructure[edit]

• lining > move inside with 10mm
• hatches > basepanels 17mm with cork 4mm and edgeband 2mm
• portlights > basepanels with 4mm cork against aluminum shell
• skyscreens > add to salon and fore cabin
• entrance > narrow ceiling cutout conform latest construction model
• finish ceiling > remove the narrow strip at exterior contour and extend ceiling panels
• base ceiling + hatch rings > make planar at CL, width as hatch rings
• base + finish ceiling > everlength 20mm at aft side, at forward end of deckhouse
• deckhouse > lining > shorten top edge, flush with topside of base ceiling, delete cleat
• deckhouse > ceiling > adjust in way of entrance
• deckhouse > lining > mount on basewood, increase window cutouts to 3mm offset from window, add rings (I will ask detail), basewood NOT in our delivery
• baseceiling > mast bulkhead > stop ceiling, continue bulkheads (bathroom + fore cabin)

Basewood hull[edit]

• portlights > basepanels with 4mm cork

Sole structure[edit]

Other files[edit]

Overlength[edit]

Navyk remarks for KMY[edit]

General[edit]

Sole structure[edit]

• table mounting?

Fore cabin[edit]

Bathroom[edit]

• upper locker doors > no radius at corners? handles?
• upper locker shelf rims

Galley[edit]

• watermixer
• safe
• access fridge?

Salon[edit]

Aft ship[edit]

• roller blinds > in model?

INFO[edit]

General[edit]

• driver-drill
  • total length including bit > 210mm
  • distance shaft center to top of housing > 36mm
• NO graphandles
• spec 500 'bars for hatches' > NOT in scope Navyk

hatches and portlights[edit]

• Deckhatches:
  • Lewmar Size 60 low profile: 39960030
    • Skyscreens
• Portligths in superstructure:
  • Lewmar Standard portlight Size 3: 393320200
• Portlights in cockpit:
  • Lewmar Standard portlight Size 5: 393520200

hardware[edit]

walls[edit]

• panels > 17-HPH-15 RAL 9010
• round corners > solid teak, varnished

lining[edit]

• panels > 12-HPH-10 RAL 9010
• knuckles > permitted, minimum width 300

ceilings[edit]

• as Nescio/Pure (15038)
• lighting > EB12/EB/22?flex-05

entrance doors[edit]

• panels > RAL 9010
• sliding door system > Husky 100 aluminum
• hinges > Kroon 353241
• mortise lock > Kroon 735831
• handles > bathroom - Foresti & Suardi 480A (Kroon S355945)
• door lock button > bathroom - Foresti & Suardi 481C (Kroon S352419)
• height doorhandles?
• sliding door catch?

lockers[edit]

• panels > 12-HPH-10 RAL 9010 and 17-HPH-15 RAL 9010
• round corners > plywood, teak veneered
• solid profiles > teak, varnished
• galley > lower cabinets > Alu HPL (Alu-poplar-Alu)
• galley > counter top > Marlan 12mm, color tbd
• shelves > mounted with shelf supports Kroon 342354 (Hettich 0053012)
• sliding door system > Husky 50
• hinges > Hettich Intermat Soft 9943 > Kroon 356850 (Hettich 1031071)
• closing device > Kroon 374965
• drawers > HPL white
• securing ledge > aluminum panel 5mm, make grooves fitting 5mm Al dividers
• door and drawer grips > finish > edge band
• ventilation sleeves > finish > paint

seats[edit]

• seat cushion thickness 100
• back cushion thickness 80 (deck house)

berths[edit]

• mattress > thickness 120mm
• ventilation > holes in bed panel

Sole[edit]

• base > 18mm ocoume, varnished all around
• finish > teak and holly 60mm > possible Bruynzeel Decora Sole Flooring T.B.D.
• margin boards > no margin boards
• hatch locking device > Southco E5-70-1627-701 + Southco E3-13-4
• sole supports > alu tubing 50x30

Fore Cabin[edit]

• bed storage > access from top & side

Salon[edit]

• folding table
  • veneered top
  • aluminium pillars diameter 120-180
  • 10mm teak margin around table top
  • hardware
• NO e-panel
• Safe > in SB bench under sole > integrated > yard made of aluminium 5mm (sketch will follow)

Galley[edit]

• Fridge > Frigomatic BI75 WATERCOOLED
• Freezer > Frigomatic BI53 > is it possible to place it under one of the three beds? AIRCOOLED
• Sink > Exalto 70.01.45
• Stove > Force 10 type (TECHNAUTIC 596122) Force 10 TECHNAUTIC 596122
• Foot pump > Belship 032610
• Faucet >
  • fresh water T.B.D.
  • salt water T.B.D.

Bathroom[edit]

• no sink
• shower mixer > T.B.D.
• shower head > T.B.D., can be integrated in ceiling if needed (for head room)
• drain > directly in floor
• mirror > at entrance door
• black water tank > Vetus ATANK 061 > position tbd by Navyk

Aft cabins[edit]

• entrance door > sliding door system Hasky 100
• boiler under bed > Webasto Basic 50 > CANCELED (will be outside interior)

Deck house[edit]

• aft area of deck house as Nescio/Pure (pillar boxes)
• chart tables > folding footrests by KMY
• chart tables > border of alu

Superstructure[edit]

• Skyscreen
  • type Roller Surface 2 With Seal
  • orientation is transverse sliding

Systems[edit]

HVAC[edit]

• KMY will provide drawing

Fire fighting[edit]

• KMY will provide model and quantity

Electrical system[edit]

• Battery > MASTERVOLT MLI Ultra 12/5000 art. nr. 66015000
• Sockets > Jung stainless steel mat ES 1520 NKI

Safety[edit]

• EPIRB MT403
  • location in recess next to deckhouse entrance

Modeling refereneces[edit]

Tolerance[edit]

• distance to frame flanges 20

Lining[edit]

• deckhouse > offset 62 from inside shell, lining will be glued against Hora windowframes conform P169 Detail windows.dwg (received June 30)

Base ceiling[edit]

• superstructure
  • offset 58 from inside shell
  • after rebuilding salon tolerance <7 (surface from aft bulkhead to fwd bulkhead)
  • interference with stringers <2, to be solved on board

Sheet estimation[edit]

Milling[edit]

• Subcontracted to CNCwerk

Aluminum[edit]

• mast bulkhead > cutout entrance door + heater hose
• aft bulkhead > cutout for heater hose
• bolt connection > create detail

People[edit]

• Eeuwe Kooi - director/owner (not directly involved)
• Willem Berends - chain manger (responsible for contract)
• Willem-Jan van der Vegt - engineer (our contactperson)
• Haaie Andringa - foreman carpentry

Exchange work[edit]

As discussed[edit]

Structure model - modifications![edit]